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The best is how many times I've seen huge hand carved / painted wooden Trump signs all over, in addition to his standard issue signage. People took time out of their day and spent money on supplies because they needed to have something bigger with that dude's name on it. Wild.

 

Conservatives who abandoned Trump see jobs, access, and influence over policy as the reward of a Clinton administration.

Republicans backing Hillary Clinton want history to reflect they didn’t help Donald Trump win the White House. But that’s not the only reason they’re bucking their party’s line.

Access, appointments and influence over a Clinton administration’s policies is the just dessert that a growing slate of conservative policy wonks, Capitol Hill veterans and former GOP administration officials say they expect for endorsing and in some cases raising money for the Democratic presidential nominee.

And they’re already getting it. From messaging help delivered by Clinton’s communications team to direct and regular access to senior staffers and in-person meetings to discuss policy and strategy, Republicans who have abandoned Trump say the Democrat has given every indication that the GOP view will be reflected in her administration.

 

The fuck.

 

Donald Trump Wants Peter Thiel On The Supreme Court, Sources Say | Huffington Post

 

I honestly don't think I've seen a single Trump sign or sticker in person at all. I've only seen a couple Clinton signs, and definitely saw more Sanders stuff when he was still in the race.

There is a weird house I walk by in Philly that has a hanging picture of Hillary with candles surrounding her in the front window, so that could count for like 10 bumper stickers

 

i drove by some horse ranch or something a little bit ago with a huge "blue lives matter" banner hanging up and a shit load of trump signs out front


this was in the st louis metropolitan area too

 

There's a house with a trump sign in front/ a little to the right of my house.

Figures cause they're the whitest family on the block.

 

"A wasted vote is a vote that provides no determination or effect on the final outcome of the election. According to Wikipedia: “Wasted votes are votes cast for losing candidates or votes cast for winning candidates in excess of the number required for victory. For example, in the UK general election of 2005, 52% of votes were cast for losing candidates and 18% were excess votes – a total of 70% wasted votes.”

There are two kinds of wasted votes that mathematically have no effect on the final election:

1. Votes cast for candidates who did not win
2. Excess votes cast for winning candidates

Clearly, neither of these kinds of votes statistically affect the election. However, many arguments only mention the first type without mentioning the second. Mathematically and logically, both categories are ineffectual votes...

When people look at the 7% and tell you that you must vote a certain way, it is assuming you will somehow influence the entire 7%. However, we have seen that you are just one voter, and that your voting power is a very tiny number by itself. You cannot be entirely responsible for a candidate winning or losing with your single vote. In theory, it’s mathematically possible for one vote to decide an election, but given there are an exponential number of possible scenarios with millions of voters (imagine raising a few million to an exponent), it’s astronomically unlikely, especially if you live in a non-battleground state.

It’s also astronomically unlikely that all 7% (8,820,000 people) would vote for who they polled for. Even if you gave each voter a 99% chance of voting for who they polled for, the chance that all of them would vote the way they polled is (0.99) to the power of 8,820,000, which is less than 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%

Individuals are not entire blocks of voters, and it’s problematic to treat them as such."

How Not To Waste Your Vote: A Mathematical Analysis | Stephen Weese

 

All depends on where you are in a solid blue or red state. I live in eastern Long island and I see more pro Trump stuff than I do Hillary. I went to brunch in Queens this weekend and it's all Hillary and Bernie there.

I gave someone the right of way the other day only to see a Trump sticker. Don't think the driver will ever know that a Muslim was nice to her that day.

 

Wonder what Birdman would say about all this

 

As a white guy that believes that absolutely EVERYONE is equal, and should be treated as such, it honestly hurts my heart to see how people respond to Kaepernick. To say that Kap is sympathetic to ISIS is SO far fetched, and I don't even have the words to describe how I feel about it. How can this type of public racism still exist, and get published on an every day basis?

GOP Rep. Steve King: Colin Kaepernick's activism 'sympathetic to ISIS'

I wish everyone wanting to chime in with an illegitimate opinion could understand he's not anti USA, he's not anti Military, he's not even anti Police...he's simply bringing attention to the fact police are trigger happy with Persons of Color than they are with Whites, and there is corruption/racism in many cities law enforcement agencies that PROVES it.

 

*rubs hands*


oh the other birdman

 

Have they confused with the Chinese food delivery guy yet?

 

I'll admit, I have Vox in my RSS feed because I feel like it's a better news site than a lot of alternatives, though I definitely agree with a lot of its criticisms. Could you recommend a couple of better sites?

 

I think they're at the level of whiteness where all they eat is dry meatloaf with lots of ketchup.

 

I live in Inglewood. There are no signs of Trump support anywhere near me.

There's a reason his campaign stop was in Orange County, not Los Angeles.

That being said, my brother (who lives in the SF Bay Area) just saw a Trump evangelist on the train yesterday on his way to work who had a swastika tattooed prominently on her chest, so... there's that.

 

You wouldn't vote for her anyway. So the rest isn't worth responding to.

 

Voter enthusiasm is roughly equal between the two candidates. This is data we have. And polls had Clinton over Sanders voters 55/44 in enthusiasm as well.

It's almost like the candidate you liked lost and you're looking to confirm your bias.

 

Yeah, the Birdman who on AP got into some pretty epic arguments with Jason; those were a sight to see

 

oh i remember birdman. we all remember birdman.

some say.....he lives among us now....

 

I dunno. I can't be DocStrong AND Birdman.

 

Legendary status at this point.

 

Baltimore doesn't fuck with Trump. My co-workers support him, but they live in Pennsylvania and the county, so....