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missouri has a small to decent chance of being blue for the first time since 96. so things will be interesting here.

 

That's perfectly fine

I really don't see Trump winning

 

It depends on where you set the bar, of course, but is it absurd? A lot of liberal Dems, leftists, etc. will be voting for Clinton in the election.

 

I am not happy with that Nevada poll. T 44 / C 42. That's moved a lot since July.

 

Election Update: Has Clinton’s ‘Bad Weekend’ Moved The Polls?

If you want to make the case that the weekend’s news has moved the polls, there are a couple of them that you might cite prominently. First is the latest edition of the USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times tracking poll; it shows a fairly dramatic swing, with the race going from a 1-percentage-point lead for Clinton to a 5-point lead for Trump over the past few days. Although the LA Times poll has had a strong pro-Trump house effect, the trend line in the poll can be useful because the poll re-interviews the same respondents over and over instead of finding a new sample of voters.

The other scary result for Clinton is a Selzer & Co. poll of Ohio, conducted Friday through Monday on behalf of Bloomberg Politics; it shows a 5-point lead for Trump there. Selzer hadn’t previously polled Ohio during this campaign, so the poll doesn’t have a trend line. But this is an unambiguously bad result for Clinton, coming from one of the highest-rated pollsters in one of the most important states.

Don't like that Ohio poll either.

 

Nah, me either.

But if he does, I swear my head will explode if one Hillary supporter tries to tell me it's my fault because I didn't vote for her. He will have won because a terrible candidate won a rigged DNC primary.

 

figured the polls would move like this based on how the media covered hillary over the weekend. pretty confident they'll swing back in her favor after the first debate. pretty drastically, if it goes the way we're all assuming it'll go.

 

This is really bad logic.

 

It depends on the extent to which these struggles are invested in Hillary/electoral politics. Only speaking in terms of what I know, BLM, we are prepared for both. But, as I said, I think Clinton will handily dispatch Trump.

 

If Clinton loses the election, it is her and her campaign's fault. X 100

 

What happens to the lesser evil ideology when one is an open nazi and the other is a closeted nazi

 

X100000

 

People I like are doing a podcast:

 

If Clinton loses the election, it's a lot of people's fault. That campaign is first in line, but it doesn't stop there.

 

Yeah, but maybe Clinton shouldn't have done terrible things and expected people to turn around and trust her. See: superpredators and mass incarceration

 

Actually, I don't like this idea of being held accountable for Clinton's loss. I feel like this is the only solidarity on offer from a lot of liberals and it depends upon my aquiescence.

 

Thanks for sharing. About to drive to the shore so I'll check it out on the way.

 

I know how this one ends: Trump posts 20 questions about her e-mail servers / the Clinton foundation / deleted e-mails, and neither candidate answers one of them

 

She's been asked and answered those questions a billion times. So, it'd be really easy to just answer them again. So, no I don't think this is how that ends.

 

The idea that anyone should be blamed but the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party if Clinton loses to the weakest major party presidential nominee in American history is hilarious.

 

The idea that people consider what Trump is doing "weak" is terrifying.

 

Are you.. serious? What a complete mischaracterization of what I said. You can't possibly have read what I said and come out thinking I said this lol.

 

Trump is certainly weak in terms of policy but I definitely wouldn't dismiss the fact that he pummeled the more experienced candidates and got support because he's a racist bully and apparently so is a lot of America