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Accountability in Music • Page 600

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by OhTheWater, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. john343

    Newbie

    Maybe instead of bashing some random poster, one of you could do half a minute of research?

    Dylan was literally touring the west coast in April and was in Europe through all of May. Being filmed, almost constantly, for a very well-known documentary, Dont Look Back. There's about two weeks when he wasn't playing any shows in mid-April, it's possible he went back to New York at that time, but according to biographers and websites that attempt to document everything about Dylan's life, he was vacationing in California with his future wife Sara during those weeks. These accounts of his time with Sara existed long before the current allegations and weren't made up by "Redditers in 2021."

    That doesn't mean nothing happened to this woman when she was a child and that doesn't mean Dylan is innocent. But it is possible to look at the currently known facts and still be a good little lib.
     
  2. SamLevi11

    Prestigious Prestigious

    I mean, whilst we appear to know he wasn’t there at the specified time, is it not possible that she just got the dates wrong? It was 50 years ago after all.
     
  3. Matt Chylak

    I can always be better, so I'll always try. Supporter

    He also… wasn’t in Europe in all of April and May. His tour that’s being used as an explanation is 11 days long.

    I’m seeing the same copy/paste bullshit all over every post about this online, so it’s hard for me to take it as good faith. I’m as big a Dylan fan as anyone on this site (go check the official thread), it would break my heart if this were true, but it’s helpful to check yourself before automatically dismissing someone who is accusing someone of fucking pedophilia.
     
  4. justin.

    請叫我賴總統

    Shiiiiiit, Dylan. I’m not even sure how much of ‘65 he remembers, so I’m not expecting much of a response on this. But, damn.
     
  5. theagentcoma

    yeah good okay Prestigious

    Wow this thread really brought out the dumbasses this morning
     
  6. cherrywaves

    Trusted

    Is it possible that the timelines don’t add up and the story has holes in it? Sure, but trauma also has negligible impacts on memory, so the abuse may have occurred at a different point in time. Not to mention that pedophilia wasn’t exactly uncommon in rock and roll at the time.
     
  7. Believe survivors, for fuck's sake. The amount of whataboutery surrounding this story makes me sick. It is indeed possible that this didn't happen due to the factors @cherrywaves mentioned above but I know who I would believe in this scenario.
     
  8. Philll

    Trusted

    When presented with an allegation of this nature, rather than ask "how can this be false?", it is always far safer to ask "how can this be true?". Dylan's alibi is not watertight, no matter what the detectives on r/bobdylan claim.
     
  9. laraheart

    Newbie

    Regardless of this scenario, so many survivors have been silenced. Let's support the people brave enough to come forward instead of defaulting to favouring/defending the people in privileged positions who have been protected/enabled for so long. That's not being "a good little lib", it's being a decent fucking human.
     
  10. buttsfamtbh

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    sharon stone's story of dylan hitting on her when she was like 17 in scorsese's rolling thunder revue are seeming more and more true
     
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  11. incognitojones

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    With abuse so widely prevalent with rockstars at this time, none of this should be surprising.
     
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  12. Matt Chylak

    I can always be better, so I'll always try. Supporter

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  13. waterloobeam

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    Ehhh even if the Sharon stone story is fake this pedophilia story should be taken seriously and should be taken as the truth. We’ve been down this road before, and as talented and loved as bob Dylan has been we must believe the victim.

    I always find it hard to believe that assholes as big as Bob Dylan don’t engage in shady behaviors. And yes, BD was a friggin jerk.
     
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  14. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    Wouldnt go this far, it just perpetuates the idea of the “nice guy” being innocent
     
  15. cherrywaves

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    There is a difference between being an asshole and grooming a literal child lol
     
  16. ItsAndrew

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  17. waterloobeam

    Regular

    Oo fair points, I agree with both. But i wasn’t implying nice guys are off the hook, nor was I comparing assholes to pedophiles. Sorry for the haphazard choice of words, but I hope my point was made.
     
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  18. ItsAndrew

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  19. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

    it's possible she liked it accidentally but yikes
     
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  20. xapplexpiex

    sup? Supporter

    She’s a country music artist. Makes sense.
     
  21. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    Cmonnnnn
     
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  22. ItsAndrew Aug 17, 2021
    (Last edited: Aug 17, 2021)
    ItsAndrew

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    Uhhhh yeah let’s not be ignorant and make general assumptions about country artists in here

    There’s definitely country artists out there with shitty views (like any genre) but there are also obviously many who don’t have those shitty views
     
  23. buttsfamtbh

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  24. ItsAndrew

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  25. Kiana

    Goddamn, man child Prestigious

    Imaging being a giant pop star and starting ur bio with being someone's wife tho