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I have little to add to this discussion at all but any pop punk comeback being led by MGK or MODSUN has little to no interest to me.

I did enjoy the KennyHoopla record a lot though.

 

I mean if I wanted to jab I woulda said something like “ok boomer”. I don’t think saying something is revisionist history and time repeating itself is that much of a jab or belittling. I find it hilarious that we are getting where a nostalgia genre is getting nostalgia criticisms. Makes me feel young again.

 

I was more referring to the part where you were saying I sounded like a kid, but maybe I was just reading that wrong.

I agree that it's completely the same kinda thing where I'm now the old man yelling at clouds, I just truly think these clouds are shittier clouds. SO many genres are making huge steps forward right now and pop-punk is not one of them. Maybe I can be old-man'y about this specific part of music, but I find it very warranted. The new breed may be "fun" but I'm not impressed.

 

everyone on the site has been listening to pop punk for basically 15+ years and we all went through getting dunked on by classic punk and metal fans on a near daily basis. Not to grossly overstate my importance, but I'd rather be an statesman that supports the next generation and helps hand it off rather than the old man yells at cloud-type. Kids are getting excited, there's a lot of energy--that tells me something special is going down. Let's be real, folks pushing 30+ don't always land on the right sight of history with this kind of stuff.

 

I’m hoping Meet Me @ The Altar is the next generation of this and not MGK lol

 

I'd support it more, even if I don't personally like it, if it wasn't led by MGK

 

they both are

 

Meanwhile, while white male creeps like MGK are being held up as "saving" or "reviving" pop-punk:

 

@Anthony_ some of these are new to me, thanks for posting

 

No, I was saying you'd be the 22 year old beard punk that doesn't get the stuff kids are into these days. The "Blink-182 are just badly ripping off NOFX and Lagwagon" equivalent. The "Yellowcard sucks ass, I thought this was AbsolutePUNK" poster.

I think bands like KennyHoopla and Meet Me @ the Altar are making pretty good sized steps at adding new voices into the genre to start with (there's . The music of pop-punk has never been musically difficult to play, it's a few chords and a lot of energy and a youthful vibe. So, new voices mixed with more modern production techniques, hip-hop and more jazzy drums being one of the obvious, is a pretty decent spin on the classic and one reason it's resonating with the youth of today.

I think it's better than Cute is What We Aim For or Forever the Sickest Kids and about four thousand pop-punk derivatives in 2002. Hell, I like the new MMATA EP more than anything Hit the Lights or Four Year Strong ever wrote.

Edit: Others I find interesting lately: Krang, Chaser, Poorstacy, Action/Adventure.

 

Best pop-punk album of the year though

 

nobody here has said white males are responsible for this new generation of pop punk. The wave as a whole is a lot more gender and ethnically diverse than anything before it, and that has played a huge role in its overall popularity.

 

you and I both know that Blink definitely built on what they learned from the early generation, is the only difference there. But I get ya.

Agree on Kenny and Altar at least adding to the genre in positive ways, and they are indeed moving it forward.

And yeah, any of this crop is better than CIWWAF and FTSK and that bottom-of-the-barrel stuff that was coming out on the tail end. I'll take bits and pieces from the best of HTL and FYS, but overall agree there as well.

And hell, maybe this current crop is just on their first album of the style and their next albums will be the genre-defining ones, I'd love to see it, but who knows...

 

these are all new to me, will check 'em out

 

I am kinda willing to bet you if you sat down with a 12-16 year old right now that loves the new era of pop-punk they'd be able to tell you the differences between the bands in the way you could tell someone the difference between Blink and NOFX, and what they're adding "new" to the sound based off what the earlier generations did.

Travis alluded to basically that in the latest interview:

He’s hopeful — not for the first time in his career — that he can help serve as a bridge to a wider world of rock. “Some of Jaden’s fans are like, ‘Whoa, Jaden invented a genre of music!’ So funny, but however they’re introduced to it, I’m fine with it,” Barker says. “Because I think even Blink was that. You know, a lot of kids discover Blink and then go back and discover the Descendents and Bad Religion and the Buzzcocks. So if kids listen to MGK and Jxdn and then discover these other bands, I mess with that. That’s cool.”

 

You will hate Poorstacy since it's very much in this "new" vein. But the others may be up your ally. That Chaser album is the best skate punk I've heard in years!

 

Travis definitely has the right mindset there. In the end, if this new crew helps introduce kids to the classics, that's pretty cool overall

 

That’s exactly what blink was for me - a gateway to classic punk bands.

 

what do you think it is about pop punk that has given it such longevity?

It would have sucked to have been really passionate about a genre like hair metal, that just disappeared and became permanently lame after it played out.

Pop punk has been around in a recognizable form for about 30 years now with multiple brushes with the mainstream in different time periods--eons in the music industry. Pretty crazy if you think about it. What other genres of music have had that kind of staying power?

 

Honestly, Jxdn & Machine Gun Kelly seem too much like fuckboys to convincingly pull off the pop-punk aesthetic, but the music slaps so whatever.

That KennyHoopla album is next level though, what a king. The new Willow Smith songs are promising too.

 

This is my first time hearing Action Adventure. Very tight.

 

I think there’s a relatability to it. It’s somewhat safe pop music with a little edge that fits in with an angst of teenage life. It’s that “they’re going through the same thing as me” and yet it’s wrapped in a coat of “fun” - jumping around goofing off being weird.

I watched the music video for “Hit or Miss” last night for the first time in years and I think that’s what I most took away from it, it was a “oh I wanna be that” sort of thing. I think that is still there. It looks fun, it’s catchy, and it’s a good summer type of music. Mix that with the emo relatable stuff and it makes sense that it keeps resonating with people I guess.

… also agree that I hope the main draw in the genre this time around looks way more diverse than last time. And I think it’s on all of us that still engage with the genre to do what we can to make sure that it is:

 

Love this! I can think of having similar moments watching All Time Low and Boys Like Girls videos when I was 13/14.

Thinking about it, one reason hip-hop has become the preeminent music genre is because it's very "kid-in-a-room" friendly--if you have something to say, you don't have to be a terribly proficient musician to give that message an instrumental and have it connect with people. While pop punk isn't quite that accessible since it does require some musical training, in terms of guitar-based music, it's probably one of the easiest genres to hit the ground running. That simplicity is a musical superpower.

Gen Z is the most diverse generation yet. Do they emotionally invest in a genre they don't see themselves in? I honestly don't think so. Consequently, I think it's been an absolutely pivotal development. Let's hope we continue to see more of it.

 

I'm glad I kept scrolling and saw Jason's post because this absolutely sounds like what everyone older than me would say when I was in high school in 1999 and loved blink-182. I think Travis' take is best and he's THE one holding the hand of these kids. Jay-Z had a point. Like my old shit? Buy the old album.

And I'm not coming down on you @irthesteve. I saw your posts about it just not being for you and that you see the fun in it. I'm just taking this post in particular as being almost verbatim what I heard from the older kids in high school.

 

All these Travis pop punk rival acts are extremely generic, but i’ll take the genre existing 20 years out and having them be at least catchy.