Sexism/Feminism/Womanism Discussion Thread Social • Page 38

Sucks that this only came about because he's scared all the attention he's attracted means he won't be able to do this anymore.

I know I'm taking the discussion back a page or two at this point but re:trigger warnings -- it should go without saying that the top priority when discussing trigger warnings is to protect people who might be triggered, but where do we know when to use them? A lot of people online use trigger warnings for using (even if only in passing) words like suicide, murder or rape. These are unquestionably traumatizing events, but is it necessary to add a trigger warning for it? Are people who are triggered by reading these words actually going to avoid news reports, classic books and movies, conversations with friends who have suffered the same traumas?

 

I want to add that yours and any HR department should allow your peers to vouch for you as witnesses anonymously in order to protect their own job security.

 

Apple, Facebook, Other Major Companies Commit To Paying Women The Same As Men

 

I'm gonna do this next time I'm out and about.

 

Kudos to her. I'm a guy and nobody (men, women, small children) EVER moves out of the way for me either. I sometimes think about standing my ground but don't have the guts to deal with the reaction and swerve at the last second haha. She's braver than I am.

 

This is an extra bummer for me cus she's here in Cleveland this weekend so it was one of our dirtbag shock jocks.

On a brighter note I'll probably see Jamie Lee live this weekend.

 

Our state government is embarrassing :v

 

It isn't really about avoiding those topics. It's about being given the tools to adequately prepare yourself to confront those topics - and yes, to occasionally remove yourself from the situation. This is a good piece on them in academia.

You won't always know when to use them, and most people won't hold it against you if you had no idea. It's more about using them once you've been asked to - and it's always safe to generally use them when you're about to discuss extreme violence, use graphic images, etc.

Is it necessary? It can be. I saw my abuser for the first time in 2 years two weeks ago and I held it together fine until afterwards, when my friend got to hold me while I sobbed uncontrollably for about 2 hours until the flashbacks stopped, and I'm still having stomach problems. Wouldn't have been as bad if I'd known he'd be there - which is obviously not a situation where a trigger warning is even possible. Still, if it had been, it would've really helped.

 

Trigger warning. Here is Nate Parker's interview:

Exclusive: Nate Parker on Campus Incident, Consent and Toxic Male Culture

This man strikes me as person who knows all of the words, but sees them as a means to an end, rather than actually being committed to them.

 

Feminism’s Toxic Twitter Wars

any thoughts on this? i don't really know what to make of it besides the fact that phrases like "Online, however, intersectionality is overwhelmingly about chastisement and rooting out individual sin" and “Feminism has a mammy problem, and mammy doesn’t live here anymore,” i'm just not sure how to quantify and provide evidence for that

 

Creating community accountability:

http://incite-national.org/sites/de...les/resource_docs/6685_toolkitrev-cmtyacc.pdf


Community Accountability | incite-national.org

 

Feminism and new ideas don't exist in a vacuum. It is easy to see how tools for liberation become distorted tools to achieve a form of social capital, in which someone is "woke" and, therefore, trustworthy and worthy of having an audience. In fact, in the era of social media, social capital has become ever more important as interactions become monetized; obviously, it is a dynamic that has always existed, but it seems more immediate now. In any case, while I do think language is important and has to be called out at every term, I think that we also need to be on guard of how the competitive social structures and this drive for "woke" subjectivity, in order to be considered authentic, can lend itself to toxicity. I mean, I've heard women tell me that men are lecturing them about sexism when it was the men who didn't understand. In itself, that compounds both sexism and this desire to be "woke" as a means for looking good or whatever. When "wokeness" becomes a means by which men can elevate themselves above women, it is obvious we need to be on guard for the deformations that can occur in a patriarchal/capitalist/white supremacist society.

 

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But why do women like me hate themselves so much?

I’ve thought about this hard. I have come to the conclusion that the reason so many women are this unhappy at this scale is because they’ve been raised to police their own thoughts for the thoughtcrime of victimhood and blame themselves for systemic fuckery. Nevermind that the fuckery is real, women’s adolescent curriculum is to learn how to hate yourself for everything you are and everything you’ll never be.

Because women are hated.

There’s no escaping how much society hates women.

And instead of being told this, you’re told you have to be hyper-responsible, hyper-vigalent, hyper-sensitive all the fucking time. No one actually gives a shit about your best interest. No one gives a shit about you at all. Men won’t take responsibility for themselves, so now that’s your job, too.

Deal with it."



The Shocking Reason Millennials are Binging on Songs about Binging on Drugs

 

I guess I'm trying to understand how best to affect this. I try to do all that I can to promote genuine conversations where I defer to an underrepresented voice, and not participate in witch hunts and dog piles discussed in the article, but that's all limited to and by my interactions. Is this as big a problem as the article argues? How then do we address it?

 

I think it depends on the community, honestly, but I've seen the sort of thing in a lot of activist spaces as well. In that situation, groups that have members who take the time to build a culture of listening and educating tend to have less of that.

 

She's been a badass her whole life. So awesome.

 

Chessy Prout, St. Paul’s School assault survivor, sheds anonymity on TODAY

 

6 Realities Of Life When You're Raped By A Celebrity

 

Fuck conservative theocracies

The Islamic Republic’s War on Women

 

feminism is scary, people!

btw both this and the previous article you linked are under paywalls after the first time reading them. how irritating haha

 

Oh just hop on incognito mode, usually those paywalls are based on read counts saved in cookies. We need to come up with a good way of individually paying journalists and journalist organizations...

 

Like some sort of subscription system?

 

"Women and children complainants in sexual matters are notorious for embroidery or complete fabrication of complaints ... It is always advisable if there is any doubt of the truthfulness of her allegations to call her an outright liar."

Not that these problems have been fixed, but knowing this was a police guideline in 1977 really makes me glad I was born in the 90's.