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Accountability in Music • Page 521

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by OhTheWater, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. bedwettingcosmo

    i like bands who can't sing good Supporter

    never been more ashamed of my home city. fuck these clowns. they are everywhere.
     
  2. sam_might_say

    The intrusive whisper fascinates me

    Amazing how like, no one’s calling them out in the comments... That is insanely irresponsible
     
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  3. fbrrocks

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    They did stuff last year too in your state just look at past posts
     
  4. sam_might_say

    The intrusive whisper fascinates me

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  5. Henry

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    I mean, they are probably deleting comments.
     
  6. It's truly something that a year in there's still no "covid misinformation" or "superspreader event" reporting options on Instagram or Twitter.
     
  7. ItsAndrew Feb 18, 2021
    (Last edited: Feb 18, 2021)
    ItsAndrew

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    It feels so unprofessional for a veteran reporter like Gayle King to ask a survivor of abuse why they just didn’t leave the relationship. Why do people ask that question? It ultimately (whether intentional or not) puts blame on the survivor for not leaving instead of the abuser for being abusive. Good on Twigs for refusing to answer that ridiculous question.




     
  8. I know you weren't really *asking* but I think about this a lot and honestly it's because most people on some level blame the survivor (whether intentional or not).
     
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  9. ItsAndrew

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    It's just...a woman was abused by a very powerful man and here she is telling her story and you want to ask why she didn't leave? That's really the question you want to spend time asking, when someone is recounting a traumatic period in their life? I do agree that it's victim blaming. It's gross.
     
  10. It's almost always one of the first questions you get asked (in my experience) when telling anyone about abuse or trauma. Doesn't matter how you frame it to them, doesn't matter if you clearly weren't inviting them to ask for more detail (obv not the case here since it's an interview but I just mean the context and setting never really matters). They instantly want to find out how you could have prevented it so they don't feel as though they have to pretend to care because it was your personal responsibility to not get abused.
     
  11. tyramail

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    It shouldn’t shock me anymore but I’m still astounded regularly by people not being able to remotely fathom something unless it happens to them.
     
  12. ItsAndrew

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  13. vidiviciveni

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    From the article: "It suggests that abuse victims in general have an implicit level of agency, which is untrue."

    Why is this untrue? I'm really asking.
     
  14. "The truth is that people in abusive relationships are not always, or even usually, free to simply leave when things get bad. Generally speaking, a combination of psychological and practical factors play a part in keeping someone trapped with their abuser. Victims of abuse may be financially dependent on their abusive partner, or they may have become so isolated from their support network of friends and family that they feel they have nowhere safe to turn.

    And emotional and psychological abuse on its own works to keep people from feeling like they can or should leave a relationship. Gaslighting prevents a person from trusting their instincts and feelings, so they may be suffering abuse without understanding they are being abused. Constant beratement and criticism can make a person feel that they deserve the abuse. And love-bombing can lure abuse victims into a false sense of security, because the doting, devoted behavior undermines the cruelty."
     
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  15. stars143

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    This isn't my area of expertise of all, but a quick google search on "abusive relationships + victim blaming" returns a lot of resources.

    If "why didn't you just leave?" seems like a reasonable question for a relationship abuse victim to you, I highly suggest reading up more on the subject.
     
  16. Serh

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    has big boi proven to be anti-mask before? smh

     
  17. SpyKi

    You must fix your heart Supporter

    it's crazy to me how many people are so offended by the concept of wearing a mask.
     
  18. bedwettingcosmo

    i like bands who can't sing good Supporter

    fuck not big boi
     
  19. Bane

    The spiciest meme

    Big Boi noooooooooooooooooo
     
  20. Nathan

    Always do the right thing. Supporter

    He shared an article defending Bill Cosby years ago, I remember how bummed I was then.
     
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  21. feel like there’s been a bunch of “little” instances over the years that point to him being a piece of shit
     
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  22. I'd say not dying or contracting lifelong physical impairment from a potentially lethal virus is more important than these people's fucking feelings but what do I know?
     
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  23. ItsAndrew

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    He also tweeted this in 2019



    Also on his song “Kill Jill” he rapped “They say Cosby gave ’em roofies/Now who know what the truth is.” aka casting doubt on the survivors of Cosby’s abuse who have come forward
     
  24. sam_might_say

    The intrusive whisper fascinates me

    Maybe this is why Outkast broke up...
     
  25. cherrywaves

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    I sincerely doubt it