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Accountability in Music • Page 511

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by OhTheWater, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. Welp
     
  2. ItsAndrew

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    Remember when he broke COVID rules the week he was to be on SNL and they had to reschedule his performance. Dude truly sucks.
     
  3. ItsAndrew Feb 2, 2021
    (Last edited: Feb 2, 2021)
    ItsAndrew

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    Can we talk about this? How musicians like the Dixie Chicks and Kacey Musgraves have essentially been blacklisted from the country music world for their beliefs meanwhile Morgan Wallen will very likely get no major repercussions from the country music world for his racist (and prior reckless) actions. This double standard with regards to how men are treated versus women in the country music industry has gone on far too long and I feel like it isn’t mentioned enough.




    Maren Morris’ tweet about this touches on the no repercussions part:


    Edit to add:
    It’s not just a Morgan Wallen issue, it’s a widespread issue, see this:

     
  4. Meerkat

    human junk drawer Prestigious

    Yeah I wish I thought Nashville and country music were gonna do the right thing here but I doubt it. Good to see some of the bigger names in country condemning it though
     
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  5. Serh

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  6. Zilla

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    Fucking moron. How tough is it to not be a racist asshole? He had the world handed to him and dropped the ball multiple times.
     
  7. thenewmatthewperry

    performative angry black man Prestigious

    Speaking of racist dogwhistles in the music scene, lets have a conversation about Matt Skiba's fascination with Nazi and Fascist imagery. Nazi Punks Fuck Off.
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  8. Cameron

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    Ummm did not know the other country bro who was on SNL flashed that white power sign wtf
     
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  9. Marx&Recreation

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    Not talking about that guy specifically since he’s clearly a shithead, but it’s not clear to me how one typically distinguishes between whether someone is doing that as a white power sign rather than just an OK gesture. Is it just based on everything else known about them?
     
  10. Philll

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    I dont know that typically musicians flash the OK symbol in the middle of performances? But yeah in the context of the confederate flag image its probably safe to assume he knows what he's indicating.
     
  11. somethingwitty

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    So when I asked last week if Morgan Wallen was typical bro-country, I got a resounding no on here. Those responses aged poorly pretty quick.

    This incident will probably just turn him into an “outlaw country” star. That whole industry is gross.
     
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  12. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    Haha I mean to be fair I wouldn't say bro-country is the equivalent to shouting racial slurs. Don't think the two line up.

    Anyway, never heard a song by that dude but he seems like a dumb racist fuck!
     
  13. Anthony_

    A (Cancelled) Dork Prestigious

    whomst could have ever predicted. whomst.
     
  14. Skiba has been a shithead forever but no one on this site wants to stop liking Blink or Trio smh
     
  15. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    To be fair, the question you asked was not "Is this person a racist dumb fuck."
     
  16. somethingwitty

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    very true! living by an amphitheater and seeing the crowds that come decked in MAGA and confederate flag apparel for the bro-country shows led me to believe that they were one in the same
     
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  17. sam_might_say

    The intrusive whisper fascinates me


    He also could’ve done like, any other hand gesture like a thumbs up, or something instead. I think it’s safe to assume that he meant what he meant by flashing that sign
     
  18. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    Not to defend that dude but I’m gonna need to see a video. Fuck him for the flag thing, but there’s too many alt right scumbags taking screenshots of people counting or using their hand to emphasize something and then misleading people to believe it’s the white power thing. That’s where it originated from, a common hand symbol that everyone does (sometimes without knowing it) that they co-opted. It’s typically very clear when people are using it to use it as white power.



    my friends and I would throw up a hand sign in high school that stood for our neighborhood (it was a joke but it caught on in pictures) that looks like an upside down “ok” or the circle game. It’d be mortified if someone took a hs pic out of context to try and “get” me.
     
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  19. Marx&Recreation

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    That’s just kinda my question though — that it is an otherwise completely innocuous, universally known gesture that has been co-opted only recently and only within a relatively minute community. Not with him specifically, but if I see any random person on the street do it, I don’t really assume that they’re making a secret alt-right symbol. It’s not so infamous at this point that I would assume the average apolitical person would have any idea that it can be something more insidious. So I just don’t know what does (or should) go into determining that beyond knowing a bunch of other things about the person. Like if I knew literally nothing else about this guy, I would totally think “yeah it’s not absurd to think he is just giving an OK gesture during a performance, that genuinely isn’t weird at all” lol
     
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  20. DarkHotline

    Stuck In Evil Mode For 31 Days Prestigious

    It’s fascinating how much people wanna act Morgan isn’t anything but a hick shithead who makes country party music for hicks, that’s who he’s always been. Dude’s just Tobey Keith minus the goat man vocals.
     
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  21. DarkHotline

    Stuck In Evil Mode For 31 Days Prestigious


     
  22. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    Country party music for....”hicks” isn’t inherently bad, tho? The bad part is the racism and him being a general jerkoff
     
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  23. ItsAndrew

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    It's been said before in here numerous times but the quality of music is irrelevant when discussing accountability/someone's actions.
     
  24. somethingwitty

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    right? The guy was a Voice contestant who had a planned and industry-backed mainstream country career handed to him.
     
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  25. Elder Lightning

    With metal in my bones and punk in my heart Supporter

    My kids would use the OK sign for the number 3 when counting with their fingers and I have been trying to teach them not to.
     
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