The Horror Thread [Archived] Movie • Page 82

Even if an episode was lame, it still had the opening going for it.

Also there was this guy

 

Something to Tide You Over from Creepshow always terrified me as a kid. How that couple gets buried up to their necks and then drown when the tide comes in and they come back to get revenge all seaweedy and mossy. And the segment with the cockroaches

 

Literally just rewatched this last night! Such a great segment.

 

Jeez what ep is that one from?

 

Tale of the Dead Man's Float

 

Omg I totally remeber that one!

 

Finally watching Deep Red

Edit: holy shot, that was perfect. I've seen Suspiria but beyond that, where should I go next with Argento?

 

I'm not the biggest fan of Giallo genre, but I thought Tenebre was good. Any of the older stuff really. His newer films have terrible. Stay away from Mother of Tears and his Dracula film imo.

 

How is no one mentioning August Underground Mordum when A Serbian Film is brought up? Shame.

 

I haven't seen either haha.

 

Whats that and how's it related? I didn't like ASF but I like French New Extremity and over the top shit done right

 

August Underground and it's sequel Mordum are both faux snuff type films. Or films where the same group of people go on murderous rampages.

To spare you the actual viewing pleasure, there is a scene in Mordum where these people murder a family and one of them has sex with the dead body of a little girl in the bathtub. I remember this being slightly different as the dead kid was a boy but I guess I was wrong.

These were both before A Serbian Film, by the way.

EDIT: By the way, maybe because of the "backlash", a different cut of Mordom was released through the POV of a specific character - the one that raped the dead little girl. In this cut, the rapist was shown to actually be a female posing as a male...I guess to make the necrophilia scene not hit as hard?

Either way, don't watch either as they have the production value of a fart in a telephone.

 

They're basically just SFX reels

 

What is? The August Underground movies?

 

Yup yup

 

I guess you could say that. But when you're implying fucked up acts rather than explicitly showing them, the "FX" demo goes out the window.

See the Guinea Pig movies or the recent American version if you want an FX demo.

And it's VFX.

 

Was there any redeeming thoughtfulness? Not even a positive message so much as an inkling of intellectual thought. I have a pretty high tolerance for depraved films but I often find throwaway pedophilia to be without anything interesting or intelligent behind it, which means I lose interest in whatever the film has to say. A Serbian Film's use of it was hardly meaningful beyond sheer shock value, so I didn't find it at all justified.

 

August Underground is essentially the same people as the "3 guys 1 hammer" people. If you don't know what that is, DON'T watch whatever video pops up when Googling.

 

Ahh, good. Just mindless shit. Sigh. It's a shame, it dilutes the thoughtful things that some extreme movies have to say.

 

Honestly I can't think of one extremely violent/disturbing movie that has something thoughtful to say.

Maybe the message to be taken from Cannibal Holocaust is to not mess with the natives when in some forgotten part of the world.

 

Eh, I found Martyrs, Frontiere(s), and Inside to be ultimately thought provoking in some capacity. Not the most thoughtful films of all times, but ones that creatively use violence as part of their broader delivery of a central idea. Irreversible too, although I feel that it moved far past any limit of tastefulness treatment of the central assault.

 

Alright we're talking about completely different levels of violence in films. Those French flicks have production value and a story.

Salo
Guinea Pig series
Serbian Film (did have production value)
August Underground

Those are just hard to watch, and have no redeeming qualities.

 

A Serbian Film was supposedly about how we accept propaganda through media or something, but I didn't really find that sufficient to justify the ham fisted rape of the unconscious child.

Salo is apparently a look at political corruption and abuse of power, but I can't comment on it as I haven't seen it.

Guinea Pig is just a straight pseudo snuff film and from your description it sounds August Underground is too.

That said, I tend to be pretty liberal with justifying this kind of art, as I put a lot of value in audience interpretation and often find some kind of message in films that I find sufficient to stomach the content. It differs for everyone, to at least some degree, I figure.

 

I haven't seen it but Salo is a legitimate art-house film and shouldn't be lumped in with Serbian Film or August Underground. To say it has no redeeming qualities is just inaccurate.