Deftones - Ohms (September 25, 2020) Album • Page 55

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1. White Pony
2. Around the Fur
3. Adrenaline

So far. Doing the next three tonight or tomorrow.

 

can’t wait to get mad at you :)

 

i mean, so far, no notes

 

ATF is my fav of the first 3 (and prob second fav overall) but also get WP being on top for many/most ppl

 

I barely return to the first two anymore lol. I don’t dislike, just love the later style more.

 

Tony

 

I’m with ya.

 

Yeah I don't dislike them - don't throw them on too often but really enjoy them when I do.

 

listening to Adrenaline and Around the Fur back to back is staggering to me, for me the biggest leap in quality in their discog is the one between those two records. I like Adrenaline when I listen but there’s rarely much of a reason for me to return to it unless I am consciously doing so in like a discog run. the songs aren’t bad, but they’re nothing special imo for the most part, and the band is obviously not anywhere near as good at playing individually or with each other yet (minus maybe Abe lol). Around The Fur is like a mission statement for the band, and also pure lighting in a bottle the whole time like it all just sounds natural to them. they would obviously go in different directions and generally lighten and in some ways tighten up beyond that album, but everything that makes deftones deftones is present on it; imo the same can’t really be said for Adrenaline. White Pony certainly showed that the band was capable of more, and it’s a great album that I love, but it feels more like a sonic leap than a qualitative one to me. I also think I overplayed it when I was first getting into the band (and it was my fav by them then) so as time goes on, I don’t return to it in full as much as some of their other records despite it hosting several of my fav deftones songs.

 

I think I could do a top 3 from each album, rather than a top 30 songs. I think I’ll do that.

 

I talked in here about just discovering these guys this fall when Ohms came out, and I have spent so, SO much time with their discography since - I’ve listened to them literally every day, and have listened to multiple records most days. Which is to say, I have no nostalgia or baggage here. I’m just taking in 25 years of work all at once.

In my opinion, Around the Fur is essentially a perfect record. It’s so good. Too to bottom, beginning to end: its brilliant. Now, is it better than White Pony or S/T or SNW or Diamond Eyes? Maybe not. I think those are basically perfect also. I can say ATF is probably the one I’ve listened to most. But Deftones are really good, guys. Like, alarmingly good. I think if I was grading them, every album from Around the Fur to Diamond Eyes gets an A or A+. And it maybe just depends on my mood which one I go to first.

I do think Adrenaline, while very good, feels a little same-y. It feels like a debut from a band in 1995. And if I’m really honest, while I don’t have anything bad to say about their last three, I think the AFT-DE stretch is significantly better.

Really, discovering these guys at this stage of my life has been such a gift. What a bummer 2020 has been, collectively as a society and for me personally (I’ve had two dogs die this year and one of my closest friends committed suicide in August). Deftones have absolutely been a wonderful distraction these past couple months, and I’m really excited for these records to age with me.

 

great post. they have the best discography of any band I listen to, that’s for sure. been in a similar boat in that they have been most of what I have listened to this year, and have really helped me through it despite how relentlessly dark it’s been. I’m sorry you’ve experienced such loss and hardships this year but v glad you had their music to help you through it.

 

Love to see it.

 

Okay, so I said Top when I meant Favorite. I’m including songs that appeared on official album releases and not b-sides, which is why you don’t see Lovers. The exception of course being the B-Sides and Rarities album. I also wrote a bit about my personal experiences with the first 4 albums. Here we go:

Adrenaline
Fist
Fireal
Birthmark

I heard this album after first listening to Around the Fur. The first two tracks here were definite standouts because I ended up loving Chino’s more ethereal sounding moments on ATF and these have that same quality. Birthmark is just a massive song that gets me pumped every time I hear it.

Around the Fur
Mascara
BQAD
Lhabia

I heard My Own Summer on the radio when I was 12 and it floored me. I got this album for Christmas later that year and my mom put a piece of paper over the cover because I had younger siblings. Initially the heavier songs were my favorite but over time I came to truly love the ones listed here. The live performances of Mascara (Wembley 2003 in particular) are mesmerizing, and Lhabia might be my favorite performance from Abe. I think BQAD has everything I love about this band on display in a single song.

White Pony
Knife Party
The Boy’s Republic
RX Queen

I remember getting this album and not being particularly excited by it at the time. It was definitely different and I sort of put it to bed early on until after S/T was released. After failing in love with that record I rediscovered White Pony and it didn’t leave my CD player for months and months. So much has been said about this record that I don’t feel like I have much more to add.

Deftones
Moana
Hexagram
Anniversary of an Uninteresting Event

This album changed everything for me. It came at a period of my life when things were not great at home, and these songs allowed me to escape. This is also around the time I first saw them live. I had a connection with the band through family and so I was lucky enough to get backstage passes and meet them during the album release club tour. I was 17 at the time and starstruck. I shook Abe’s hand and he gave me signed sticks, and I got to hang out with them for a time backstage after the show. It remains one of the greatest experiences of my life.

I know Moana isn’t exactly the most revered song, but to me Chino’s haunting vocals layered on top of that wall of sound just create a feeling in me I can’t describe. I can remember driving around late at night just blasting it as loud as I could and feeling like I was somewhere else, which was all I wanted at the time.

I first heard Hexagram from a two minute teaser clip on their website and I thought it was the coolest riff I had ever heard. I replayed that clip endlessly and when the album came out I lost my shit when I realized that was the opening track. Still one of my favorite songs to this day.

AoaUE to me showcases how dynamic the band can be and it has some of my favorite lyrics.

This record shaped my future tastes in music and it led me to pursue the extremes of crushingly heavy (bands like ISIS, Meshuggah, Spitfire etc.) and auditory dreamscapes created by ambient artists like Eluvium. S/T captures these extremes together and for that and many other reasons it will always be special to me.

B-Sides and Rarities
The Chauffeur
Savory
Crenshaw Punch

Saturday Night Wrist
Riviere
Combat
Cherry Waves

Diamond Eyes
This Place is Death
967-EVIL
Beauty School

Koi No Yokan
Rosemary
Entombed
What Happened to You

Gore
Acid Hologram
Rubicon
Doomed User

Ohms
The Spell of Mathematics
Headless
Error

 

love to see some s/t love

 

I think I've been underestimating Ceremony and Urantia since I was so high on Genesis and Error at first, but those two are so smooth and really starting to stand out for me.

 

Woah this review of Black Stallion is pretty glowing

Deftones: Black Stallion album review | Louder

 

I’ll be faint
like a croooooo-
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what in the god damn fuck is pink cellphone and why did they just derail the album with that

 

welcome

 

Okay, updated rankings

1. Deftones
2. White Pony
3. Saturday Night Wrist
4. Around the Fur
5. Diamond Eyes
6. Adrenaline

 

I ain’t mad at it

I say this with love but (especially listening to the records back to back like this, in light of what came before it) diamond eyes feels like the band playing it safe in so many ways to me. still love it but I might even rank Gore above it now, making it my second least fav besides Adrenaline.

 

Diamond Eyes is the closest thing they've ever made to a straightforward radio rock record. I probably shouldn't say closest thing bc really it is a straightforward radio rock record. Some people love it for that reason, others don't like it for that reason