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The 1975 - Notes on a Conditional Form (May 22, 2020) Album • Page 241

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by Matt Chylak, Nov 26, 2018.

  1. ComedownMachine

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    Need this album but between Petals for Armor and the new Charli XCX album on Friday I’m fine waiting
     
  2. Corey Putney

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    Moses Sumney and Perfume Genius on Friday also!
     
  3. RyanRyan May 13, 2020
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    I caved in and listened to Guys and it’s gorgeous. And my gf who hates the band (because I overplay them) didn’t know it was them, turned and said she really likes the song. So that’s made me smile haha. If only so I can go IT’S THE 1975 HA!
     
  4. drummerAVA

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    I wasn’t gonna listen to Guys until next week but it just mysteriously decided to add itself to my phone today so... *shrugs* lol
     
  5. Cheesy is only cheesy when it’s not sincere, in my opinion.
     
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  7. JBoch

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    Since I'm getting all of the hate, I'll defend my opinion that it's cheesy.

    "Right then I realised
    You're the love of my life"

    "The moment that you took my hand
    Was the best thing that ever happened, yeah
    The moment that we started a band
    Was the best thing that ever happened
    And I wish that we could do it again"

    "I hear a song and start to cry
    Pretend it's smoke that's in my eye"

    All of those lines come across as over-the-top and cheesy, especially the smoke in the eye part. Maybe I'm just not a "love letter to my mates" kind of guy. It's emotional and cute, but I didn't like the song when I first heard the live version and I don't see myself going back to it at all.

    It seems like a lot of people disagree with me and that's fine, you're entitled to your own opinion. The beauty of art is that everyone gets something different from it and I'm glad some people like it. I don't and I'm disappointed that this is the song that closes their album.

    (commence shitposting telling me why my opinion is trash)
     
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  8. sawhney[rusted]2 May 14, 2020
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    sawhney[rusted]2

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    That's completely fine and I totally understand. If it doesn't work for you, it's just your ability to connect with the topic and how you view raw, but simple lyrics like that. I personally enjoy and don't mind that, but that's also because I'm a huge advocate for how lyrics are presented rather than what they say.

    And also, don't know how a song that's a love letter to his bandmates that wouldn't come across as cheesy. It needed to be direct and drop all pretense and hints of irony or clever wordplay because he's just speaking to his bandmates. If he tried to write the song as an allegory for his relationship or something similar, it wouldn't have the same "credits rolling" vibe.
     
  9. [removed]

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    I think the song is more boring than cheesy, which is why i’m hopeful in the context of the album it fits in nicely at the end. Absolutely should not have been released as a single before the album.
     
  10. sawhney[rusted]2

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    Glad I haven't listened to it yet. Heard bits of the live version but it didn't seem like a pre-release single, at all lol. Bad move on their part tbh
     
  11. Ferrari333SP

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    If you haven't gotten into joan yet, this is a good one to try

     
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  12. FrankieThe4th

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    every joan song transports me to the late 90s/early 2000s and it's delightful
     
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  13. Matthew Healy appears to have a problem regarding shitting on bands smaller than his and forgetting incredibly quickly that the 1975 were nobody before they broke through. Really crass attitude to have. Whether the band are making subversive pop music is another issue entirely but man, shut your fucking mouth for once in your life, please.

     
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  14. Corey Putney

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    I think we also overuse the word "single" when referencing a pre-album track. Not every song that a band decides to share prior to an album should be treated the same. It's not like they're pushing this track and sending it to radio and trying to make it a hit or anything like they are with "If You're Too Shy". That's the single. This is just something they wanted the fans to hear. Maybe they wanted the world to see how transparent and honest the album as a whole is, and again - in the mindset of this at one time being looked at as their last album for a while, and this song being the one that defines their time together, it was probably the plan all along to put this out there a week prior to release. Just because they wanted to. It makes them happy. And again, it's the closer - it's not necessarily meant to be stacked up and compared to the other tracks the same way an intro or interlude aren't always meant to either.

    The comparisons to liking Always Wanna Die more are also silly to me - this album is just choreographed differently than that. Not every album wants to end with an anthem - some want to bow out quietly.
     
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  15. I agree with this actually
     
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  16. Corey Putney

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    Matty's words often get taken out of context. I don't see anything wrong with that statement. I don't think he's comparing The 1975 to other small bands, I think he's comparing The 1975 to when they were a small band. Like he's comparing where The 1975 is now to when they were Drive Like I Do and nobody listened to them or knew who the fuck they were. He's happy they could break out and turn their little garage band into one that sells millions of records and I don't think there's anything wrong with that?
     
  17. irthesteve

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    Yeah, for once I don't think there's anything wrong with what Matty said
     
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  18. Tim

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    The writer leading into this w/ the words “pretentiousness aside” is hilarious.
     
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  19. [removed]

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    Yeah there’s zero wrong with what he said.
     
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  20. Jusscali

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    Is this a new one? Think I missed this. Joan is dope
     
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  21. Jusscali

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    He’s a weapon. Fuck what he says...about anything lol
     
  22. Ferrari333SP

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    Just came out today! When I saw them live a few months ago they played this and it was great
     
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  23. Jusscali

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    Also love me better by Joan is low key the best new edition/Bobby Brown track in 30 years
     
  24. Jusscali

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    I’ll never understand the single approach. There are 5 new ones since the new year now - just record two more and drop a whole ep. Makes streaming them easier lol
     
  25. heymattrick

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    Agree with everything except the second paragraph about comparisons to Always Wanna Die. A Brief Inquiry and Notes were meant to be companion albums, so I don't think there's anything wrong with comparing the two tracks. I initiated some of the conversation about I Always Wanna Die, and I think it's fair to compare ALL of the closing tracks from all four albums, since we have heard all four. Always Wanna Die is the standout of all four closing tracks to me. Closing tracks on an album are very important to me, and it would have been hard to top that one. Especially if Notes is supposed to "end this chapter of The 1975", I didn't immediately feel like Guys was the song to end that.
     
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