General Politics Discussion VII [ARCHIVED] • Page 70

The difference between 2016 and 2020 is astounding. Absolutely staggering. Like I knew he was much better back then but this is the first time I've actually watched footage of him from that time period since he joined the primary. Dear lord. It's clear as day that he is no longer capable of doing this.

 

Not inspirational lol

 

I am really watching Michigan. If you use super Tuesday as a model, it's a blowout for Biden, but if Bernie can pull something off there, way better showing with working class voters, it'll reset things a little.

 

One issue with this is Sanders did very well in the next batch that had caucuses in 2016. Those are out now. So this was supposed to have been a great day, that’s what’s hard. So the comparisons don't work very well imo. And because of the proportional allocation, it plays a trick on making it look closer than it may very well be. Anyway, something to think about.

 

So is Biden "supposed" to take NY and PA? We need those.

 

NYC goes to Bernie, rest of state goes Biden

 

Upstate NY potentially as well (outside of Albany, Buff, and Roch)

 

If it helps, they didn't poll my girlfriend and I who are v pro Bernie and voting lol

I guess that also speaks to how polls can depress turnout and enthusiasm.

 

Can we trust the ad? Is it genuine? I saw one of Bloomburg that made it appear as if Obama was endorsing him, was really just a bunch of clips editted together and was cheesy as hell.

 

If there's public video of Obama praising Bernie, I absolutely say that you get it out there for people to see

 

it’s not an endorsement, it’s clips of Obama talking about Bernie at the 2016 convention and other times too

he’s not doing anything untoward playing those clips in ads

 

Bernie should still win NY, I think he lost any chance at PA after this Tuesday. Still vote for him though.

 

New York isn't until late April.

Bernie could def be in a position by then where he doesn't have to just win, he needs to win by a big margin.

 

What makes you so confident NYC goes to Bernie? In 2016, the complete opposite happened

 

Not to mention purely letting Biden speak in long stretches

 

Yeah, but if he gets crushed in Missouri and other states, does that really matter if he wins Michigan?

 

Well no, but that’s where I am looking for signs of a change in the dynamics instead of a landslide forming.

 

i live here and went to the rally and AOC

 

Oh sorry. Bernie loses Staten Island.

 

yes. If Bernie wins big in AZ and Michigan and Wisconsin that sends a really strong signal he should be our candidate because those are the states we need to win.

 

you guys ever think about how Biden said 150 million people died from guns last year and that's why he's running for senate, fat

 

Sure, but he needs to make up the delegates in other states too. This is shaping up to be 2016 all over again. Next week, Bernie could win Washington, ND, Michigan, but if he loses Mississippi and Missouri by a lot his delegate deficit will increase.

 

you know what i'm all in on biden idc. i will happily knock on doors for him in the general. "isn't that the guy who challenged trump to a push up contest but fell down before it could even start and then got up and said he did 50" and i'll say "youre goddamn right and it fucking rules, can i put you down as a vote for Biden?"