Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (J.J. Abrams, December 20, 2019) Movie • Page 298

Ewwww you may be right and that had not occurred to me.

And yeah the cinematography did not help things. TFA and TLJ were both beautiful, and this really wasn’t. Some scenes I truly couldn’t tell what was happening. The sound design made me react more than anything visual that I can remember immediately.

 

To that I'll give the same answer the movie gave:

 

Jenny is the best

 

For the next 'A Star Wars Story' film they should find an amazing unproduced screenplay that has nothing to do with Star Wars, like one of those blacklisted scripts that kicks around Hollywood for years that everyone agrees is great but nobody has the balls to sink the money into and make, and retrofit it to be a Star Wars story. Like imagine the Ryan Gosling movie Drive only set in the Star Wars universe instead of LA. Or True Detective Season 1 only Woody Harrelson has some makeup on and is playing an alien in the Star Wars universe, but the core of the story is the same, only instead of the bayous in Louisiana the bulk of the season takes place on a swampy backwater planet.

Shake things up a bit. The setting will be this universe we all love but there will be no call-backs to the Skywalker Saga. Not one single:
"Your name is Han and you are alone, you say...? Han Solo it is."

 

CSI: Coruscant (coming 2021 to Disney+)

 

I would like the next Star Wars story to be set in the past long before the Skywalker saga

 

Who were all the people in Palpatine’s little colliseum at the end?

 

Probably kidding, but it sounds good to me!

Honestly, Solo came kind of close only if they had Ahlden Ehrenreich playing a new character instead of Han Solo. I know that fundamentally changes that film, but still, I think the idea stands.

 

lol i think Mandalorian is a step in the right direction, i'm ready to see how big this universe can get, and move as far away from skywalkers a we can.

 

I am not fully caught up on Mandalorian - I think I've seen 4 episodes - and I know I am absolutely in the minority here 100%, but I dont love Baby Yoda as much as everyone else does. As an idea I mean. Physically on screen it is cute as all hell and absolutely enjoyable to watch, but I wasn't thrilled story wise when it showed up.

I have really been craving something different story wise from this universe. With the budgets and CGI and everything we have nowadays the there really shouldn't be many limits on what Star Wars can be on screen. Yet we just keep getting a lot of the same things over and over again and it makes the universe seen so small.

I do still enjoy The Mandalorian a lot so far. It's really, really good. And I do realize that Disney paid $4 Billion for the right to use these very same things I am complaining about.

 

I'm sick of every single media property being too cowardly to address what things are like in the aftermath of their core events. Retreating to tell a story from the past is so damn lame. I don't care about stuff that's ancient history, I want to know what's new. Like I think the Targaryen prequel to GoT that we're getting is nowhere near as interesting as something that's set, say 100 years after the end of the series, just to see how the world has changed (or hasn't). Same with Star Wars. Save the prequels for novels and comics and video games. Set the next film(s) 100+ years in the future se we get all new characters but actually see some of the ramifications of what has happened here in these 9 films. Have the guts to forge a path forward instead of relying on the security of what's past.

 

JJ Abrams sure does love blowing up planets

 

I'm not ready to witness the mess Abrams will make out of Your Name.

 

Remember in this movie when C3po is having his memory wiped and all the characters are silently sad and a robot says “sad”.

 

I loved that little robot's "No thank you" response to being touched.

 

lol yeah for something that was clearly just invented to sell pop figures - i thought D-o provided a few good moments

 

Plus I feel like this tactic ends up missing the very thing that made people fall in love with the properties in the first place. Game of Thrones was something different when it came out. Well-acted, fully-budgeted fantasy but with sex and burtal murders was fresh and new for so many viewers.

Nobody predicted Game of Thrones was even going to be what Game of Thrones ended up becoming. The way it caught on with such a vast swath of the population and so many different types of viewers. Trying to make 'The Next Game of Thrones' by simply rehashing what you think worked is such a dumb idea. Creatively speaking. Business wise I will admit I can see the argument even though I still fundamentally disagree with it.

 

so, so, so many shows tried and failed to be the next Lost

so, so, so many shows are already trying and will continue to try to be the next GoT and will mostly fail as well

 

The first thing i thought of when i saw D-O was "oh, disney put the Pixar lamp into the Star Wars universe. I think I'm ok with it."

 

Man, JJ loves a moment, but could not possibly care about the work it takes to earn it. Supremely lazy storyteller.

 

Well, this movie made me appreciate Rogue One more.

 

Yep, I feel like a lot of the stuff in this movie would be cool in a vacuum but falls apart with how little any of it makes sense.

 

A Confederacy of Dunces only Ignatius is a Hutt. Although the irony in that one might be too much...

 

Deadline is reporting it made up to $48 million on Thursday, which is above TLJ but under TFA. 4th best all time.

 

I’m back for a brief comment.

I think the most disappointing thing for me is that Kathleen tried to get Rian to come back for Episode 9 and turned it down before she went to JJ. I think Rians reason for turning it down was more artistic like he wanted to let somebody else be apart of it but I can’t help but think it was more the fact that he would have HAD to begin another entire grueling production immediately after TLJ. I feel like he would’ve been more likely to do it if they pushed back the release a year or even two to give him time to regroup and write a meaningful end.

I guess my biggest issue with this trilogy was the two year production cycles for each movie. Disney supposedly forced Lucasfilm to get 7 out by Xmas of 2015 when JJ wanted more time to write. Rian was forced to write his movie while 7 was still being filmed (hence why the dice were so important in his movie because they ended up deleting that shot of Han putting it back in TFA). And then after Trevorrow getting fired and Carrie passing rather than taking some time they immediately thrust JJ back and had only a brief time to write before beginning production.

I don’t totally blame Kathleen or Lucasfilm for the lack of a cohesiveness or plan more than I do Disney. On top of TFA being forced out too soon, they forced Lucasfilm to release Solo in May when they wanted to push it back and I’ve heard it was Kathleen who finally convinced Disney/Iger for this hiatus and more time to plan. A two year cycle for these movies for how massive of a production it is is just wayyyyy to short.

And I really just can’t get out of my mind what a Rian Johnson Episode 9 would’ve been like...