Entertainment Forum General Chat Thread • Page 256

In terms of genre sure but Up and Inside Out and the films of Miyazaki are all as complex or more than your average Star Wars movie and still for kids. The entirety of Star Wars’ conflict is a largely binary good vs evil struggle and while there is stuff that’s weighty, particularly with Luke in the Last Jedi, the stories are simple and for kids and that’s not a diss.

 

Oh sure, I’m not taking that idea as a whole as a diss.

I just think it’s lame to look down on adults for enjoying talking about movies they love, haha

 

Truly, I wish I had something that meant so much to me as a kid that I make my entire online persona defending it, but no one really wants to argue about A Goofy Movie or Celebrity Deathmatch so I can't.

 

The concern comes from Disney’s monopolization of the medium for mainstream American audiences. When they force independent art theaters to show Star Wars it forces out smaller, independent films. When they buy up indie distributors, they can hold indie films hostage from those theaters if they won’t play Star Wars. They flood the market with Star Wars and Marvel until it’s all people really see when they go to the movies, and to back up Tetra’s point, in Scorsese’s essay explaining his criticism of Marvel, he talks about how event films used to often be adult, auteur works. The cultural conversations were about works of challenging art. Now, it still does happen, this conversation spawned from the fact that Marriage Story, an intimate, adult movie, is being talked about a lot, but the trend is apparent and part of Disney’s ultimate strategy to own as much of the entertainment market as they can and it suits them to make crowd pleasing movies that don’t challenge their audiences and have them leaving the theater happy and excited for the next superhero or Skywalker movie. It might sound overly cynical or alarmist but it is their strategy, when they bought FOX they largely weren’t sure what to do with some of the smaller, more challenging/not as family friendly projects they inherited. They canceled many and laid off workers as they consolidated studios under their own umbrella and now the most risk-averse producer of cinema owns the most percentage of cinematic output in like, 100 years.

 

I don’t disagree with really any of that but I still have a problem with him looking down on people for enjoying a movie. That’s it.

 

This is all correct and important and I have no issue at all with this. I agree with it all. The comments about children/adults and especially college educated vs. not are wildly unnecessary and the point could very easily be brought across without those comments.

 

I only discuss real intellectual films like Cats at parties

 

yeah forget discussing movies made for children or movies made adults, where is all the discussion of movies made for nobody

 

It is necessary. College-educated people have had more access to culture than non-college people. If someone wants to fund it you can run the numbers and compare film tastes across education.

 

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily fromNarodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick and Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existencial catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Rick and Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

 

Necessary from what point of view?

Obviously it can be from a research and educational point of view. But discussing movies at a party is practically the opposite of an intellectual setting. Don’t you ever shoot the shit with friends and just chit chat about movies without it getting too serious?

 

Yeah, culture in general. Film is not something that interests everyone and one can be educated both formally and in culture without caring about film at all.

 

Back when people wanted to talk about more than Disney movies, yes.

 

Lol, alright man

 

A Goofy Movie is a great sentimental resource about what it means to be a Dad and offered a healthy view of masculinity ahead of its time in a lot of ways i will die on this hill.

 

At the last party I threw I had conversations about:
The Room
Fateful Findings
Giallo films

 

username checks out.

 

Way for everyone to flex that they go to parties

 

So wait Morrissey is tetra from AP? It’s been a while

 

he's been here the whole time

 

Some pretender stole my rightful username. Then Morrissey had to go and get more racist and right-wing.

 

Nah, you're Morrissey now.

 

This is a dumb question. Are the studios posturing the newest Star Wars as the "last" Star Wars? People keep referring to it as the "end". I thought they were going to keep making these movies