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Watchmen (HBO) TV Show • Page 18

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by airik625, Sep 21, 2017.

  1. Garrett

    i tore a hole in the fabric of time Moderator

    if the dot on the left is supposed to be the earth, then Veidt’s on the moon. Mars is barely a pinprick in our sky so we’d be the same in Mars’
     
  2. David87

    Prestigious Prestigious

    I have not, just saw the movie. I know she's obviously got some issues with the Comedian and her mother and the attempted rape and etc, and the way things ended with Veidt duping the world and etc....but I don't know enough about the comic to know why she would be so...bitter? about them. Especially since it seems like she continued to do it into the late 80s/early 90s according to that peteypedia thing. Not that I don't buy it or anything, I'm just interested to see if we get some history there on what got her from Point A to Point B with her viewpoints there
     
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  3. Taking the Comedian's last name was not something I expected.
     
  4. MidDave

    I'm Sleepy Supporter

    Right????
     
  5. RyanPm40

    The Torment of Existence Supporter

    Just my opinion of some possibilities, but could be from a host of reasons, but possibly..

    1. Manhattan, a vigilante, ended up not caring for humans anymore and became uninterested in her, leaving a feeling of betrayal
    2. Veidt did the attack that killed millions
    3. Night Owl, the person she loved and depended on, was unwilling to make a deal with the government, so she feels abandoned and betrayed by his "cowardice"
    4. Her father did a lot of fucked up shit
    5. Her mother being Silk Spectre is what pressured her to be the next Silk Spectre, something she never wanted to be
    6. Rorschach was a violent monster

    Tldr, her experiences with vigilantes have either ended up hurting/betraying her, and she saw the danger of letting vigilantes hide under masks to get away with anything and develop God complexes to justify fucked up behavior
     
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  6. David87

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    Am I just misremembering or did she do that at the end of the movie version as well? For some reason I feel like I remember her being called "ms Blake" or something like that at the end of the movie. Could just be a total fabrication on my brain's part.

    I'm guessing that does not happen at the end of the comics.
     
  7. I dunno, I haven't seen that movie in a very long time.
     
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  8. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    i feel like there’s a page where she reconciles with her feelings on the comedian when she finds out from her mom they were in a consensual relationship for a bit. politics of that aren’t great haha but it would explain it partially, i guess.
     
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  9. David87

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    Also, the car falling and almost hitting her at the end...that was supposed to be Manhattan messing with her, right? Like confirming he heard the call and kinda giving her a middle finger about the not having a sense of humor thing
     
  10. phaynes12

    https://expertfrowner.bandcamp.com/ Prestigious

    that’s what i thought but my wife seems to think it’s the company that’s name is escaping me that bought Veidt’s company and seems to be the main tech company
     
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  11. Apparently some of the peteypedia stuff says that Laurie went back to vigilantism with Dreiberg after the events of book, they got caught and he's in jail but she took a deal to become an anti-vigilante fed, right? But her fucking nu-vigilante name was "The Comedienne?" Why the fuck would she ever lol
     
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  12. jbaseball44

    Who Watches The Watchmen? Supporter

    the stuff with Laurie taking on the comedian's last name, and even a version of his name as her post-comic vigilante moniker is interesting. in the comic there is sort of the conflict between Laurie and her mom, in that her mom is sort of pushing her to be the person she once was, a celeb superhero, while shielding her from the truth about her father. the stuff that her mom loves about her celebrity status she hates, etc. In taking on her dads name it would seem she is embracing that everyone has faults and she has to accept her parents for who they are not who she thinks they should be
     
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  13. RyanPm40

    The Torment of Existence Supporter

    I think it was whoever had the giant magnet to pick up Will (the guy in a wheel chair), so doesn't seem like it'd really be Manhattan to me - just a coincidence. Definitely looks like Angela's car

    Wonder if the creator of the Mars phonebooth has been listening in on calls all along and if they're behind whatever is going on with Will's side story
     
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  14. RyanPm40

    The Torment of Existence Supporter

    It seems rather foolish to be talking about what Veidt did out loud to some phonebooth that someone could potentially be listening in on
     
  15. Slangster

    Won "Best Hog" at the Hog Shit Snarfing Contest Supporter

    I don't think it was Manhattan but I DO think Laurie will think it was him.
     
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  16. AWasteOfATime

    @awasteofatime Supporter

    no way the car had anything to do with DM
     
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  17. MidDave

    I'm Sleepy Supporter

    I also don't think it had to do with DM but I think she thinks it did.
     
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  18. RyanPm40

    The Torment of Existence Supporter

    Re-reading the comics it really is hilariously silly how Gibbons gave Laurie high heels throughout the book.
     
  19. Marx&Recreation

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  20. sawhney[rusted]2

    I'll write you into all of my songs Supporter

  21. Marx&Recreation

    Trusted

    No he’s right
     
  22. sawhney[rusted]2

    I'll write you into all of my songs Supporter

  23. Rowan5215

    An inconsequential shift as the continents drift.

    forgive me if I'm jumping the gun but this could turn out better than The Leftovers tbh, 3 episodes in and every aspect is clicking absolutely perfectly

    Jean Smart was fucking incredible casting
     
  24. Nyquist

    I must now go to the source Supporter

    There are a lot of parallels going on between the show and the graphic novel. Keene’s absolutely puppeteering behind the scenes. The scene at the funeral with the Rorschach bomber seemed very reminiscent of the “assassination attempt” on Veidt’s life in chapter 5. Veidt was of course the mastermind behind it all in an attempt to throw everyone off his scent, giving off the appearance that the “mask killer” was gunning for him too. Roy Chess, in Veidt’s words, gave his life in service of a higher cause. I’m guessing Keene didn’t necessarily anticipate that Lori would be such a wildcard, throwing a potential wrench in his plan to look like a hero, but he used it to his advantage anyway. His father created the Keene Act to force the masks into hiding so it would seem he’s continuing his father’s work with an agenda of his own.
     
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  25. Rowan5215

    An inconsequential shift as the continents drift.

    yeah no one as a) handsome and b) Southern as Keene could *not* turn out to be the bad guy in a show like this