Joker (Todd Phillips, October 4, 2019) Movie • Page 31

Legitimately unsure if this actually happens in the film, lol.

 

It does

 

I thought this was fine, nothing special though.

 

but hey, at least they manage to fit 2 jokes about dwarfism in this scene as well

 

I don’t think it’s nebulous. When he steals the file, the documents show that he was abused and his adoption papers are attached. So his mom really was just delusional iirc.

 

I didn't take this as a film that set out to make a strong commentary about mental health and do a deep dive analysis on all of the nuances associated with that topic. But the mental health of the character is central to the film.

 

If we’re going with the motifs from “The King of Comedy” that the movie often references, That movie ended in similar, yet way less violent way, where the main character ended up being praised and exalted by the public for doing something heinous (in that case, it was kidnapping), getting huge press and his own show. Since he was shown to be an unreliable narrator, Scorsese left it up to the audience whether or not all of that happened or, more likely, he got arrested and hauled off to jail. I think Phillips wants to do the same with the ending of this, where the climax is so fantastical, it almost has to be a fantasy. Especially when it jumps to an undetermined amount of time later and Fleck has no visible scars from the crash, my interpretation is he wants the audience to question if it really happened.

 

wonder if these two things have anything to do with eachother lol

its like he wrote a thesis out of it, imagine being that fragile

 

Loved the movie ‍

 

I will say i didn’t feel like it tried to justify or sympathize with mass shooters or whatever, but also it just had really nothing to say in general

 

That's the most eyeroll inducing thing about this movie. How seriously it takes itself and how it has virtually nothing to say.

 

i would probably like this a lot more if i consumes zero pieces of todd phillips content the last three months. but he’s come off as such a fucking dork that it has put a massive bad taste in my mouth going into this.

 

ya and the movie isn't good or bad or anything enough to justify the months of conversation it got, so that probably all could have been avoided pretty easily

 

I'm not even going to see this. There's just...everything you guys write and I read makes me feel like I'll just want to walk out the entire time. Maybe I'll watch it when it comes out streaming.

 

You're Not Going To Remember Any Of This Shit: Joker, Reviewed

basically this

 

I agree with the comments about how the film comes across as if it has nothing to say, but I took that as maybe the only point they actually tired to make. The message to me is just, "here's a guy who is unstable, let's watch what he turns into once he let's go of what little he had to hold on to."

 

Also, I saw this before reading any of the reviews, the director, the cast, etc. Glad for that as it would have warped my experience/opinion.

 

There is that line "I don't believe in anything" towards the end, so maybe the point is that there is no point, which is honestly pretty on brand for the Joker. Still, for a movie that throws so much at you, that feels like a cop out.

 

I don't think I want to see yet another movie centered on white men that's shitty to its female/poc characters, especially if its point is to not have a point.

 

The movie is completely inessential. Nothing about it hasn’t been done before, but better. Which makes all the initial hyperbolic praise and Golden Lion all the more baffling. There’s nothing sophisticated, bold, or interesting about the filmmaking.

 

Hah, of course it validates that crowd. As if I didn't have enough to worry about.

 

This was bad

 

According to IMDb this is the tenth best movie ever made.

 

These can't not be related. Ugh