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This interview focuses on Jerry the mixer not Jerry the producer, but still, it's Jerry talking about his approach and a very informative read.

 

Where does all the "What Went Wrong," "Easy Target," and "All of This" information come from?

 

A meticulously researched website called wikipedia dot org

 

A sample you might recognize in this song

 

Do you mean they had contracted song-writers or are you talking about the other musicians that played and contributed to the record like the dude plays synth?

But I don't think it's the same method of songwriting as it was back then.

And there's nothing wrong with that. It just isn't. Unless there are a lot of undocumented stuff I don't know of course.

 

Ha, figured.. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any juicy Jerry/Blink write-ups.

 

Easy Target being about Jerry Finn is taken from interviews with the band and even the liner notes for the record.

It isn't a "wikipedia fact".

Also, the idea that you can't source wikipedia is very 2003.

 

Easy Target is about a experience Jerry Finn had. It's not a lie.

 

If the exact same studio sessions occurred in 2019, there would be quite a few more people getting song writing credits on those Blink songs.

 

That's not what I asked.

I'm asking if you know that they contracted or worked with song-writers or if you are talking about the musicians involved in those sessions. If they did that's an interesting fact.

 

Are song-writers not musicians?

 

I'm saying collaboration with others in the process of making Blink-182 songs is very much a part of the band's history, and that how we credit songwriters in 2019 versus 1999 is why there aren't more names credited on early Blink albums. The contracted musicians and songwriters involved in those sessions would most likely be given songwriting credit for their contributions in 2019. Jerry Finn absolutely would have.

 

Haha. And Roger Joseph Manning Jr. is absolutely a songwriter.

Speaking of ... here he is on the latest Marianas Trench album!

 

I think that's often true nowadays, but not always. Lots of current producers work with similar methods to our (admittedly circumspect) inference of Jerry's habits and aren't credited as songwriters. For example, Machine produced the new Grayscale and isn't credited as a writer, but some of the songs DO feature credited outside co-writes from Colin CreeV and Curtis Peoples.

 

I'm not disagreeing with you in that.

But I never heard of their songwriting process working like the Heaven demo. And from what I read it seems they work with Feldman more directly while before they had a batch of songs before going in the studio and then collaborated while now the writing seems to happen directly with the Feldman from the start.

And I wasn't aware they had contracted songwriters before (they had contracted musicians that did write parts or were part of creating the songs, that I knew).

That story regarding Ken Andrews for example was something I didn't know and definitely shed some new light on how they did some finishing touches on the Untitled.

Fallen Interlude was also written by someone with Travis, I know that.

 

Of course they are.

But a studio musician has a different function than a contracted song-writer. I'm more talking about those studio roles, I'm not implying songwriters aren't musicians.

 

Even if no one else contributed to their early albums, there’s nothing wrong with trying new songwriting methods and collaboration is fun

 

I never said that. In fact I've been very explicit in how I think there's nothing wrong with that.

Them changing how they write songs isn't bad and I'm not implying it is. I just don't think there's no change and the only reason those people are credited is because of how credits work differently.

And if I'm wrong then I would love to know more about how they wrote and collaborated in the prior albums.

 

I remember when The Matches got a bunch of shit for using different co-writers/producers on Decomposer & A Band in Hope, and it wound up being a pretty rad experiment that brought a lot of variety to their basic pop-punk sound. Mark was one of the people they worked with on a few tracks (as was Feldmann and Tim Armstrong, old buds of blink), and I recall him saying at that time how much he admired their creativity and openness to work outside their creative comfort zone thru collaboration. The fact he still prefers to work that way to enhance how he works in a creative environment is awesome, and I think it’s being proven how fruitful it has been for all parties involved.

 

If you don't think Jerry Finn would have songwriting credit on those albums in 2019, then I don't know what to tell you, cause I'm willing to say with almost complete certainty that he would.

I don't know Machine's contract, but I'd assume he'd probably want more $ upfront with a band that's not going to sell many copies of an album. I'd venture a guess he's not seeing any Grayscale royalties.

 

Yikes. I wonder how much Berra charged them to film at "The Berrics" - I just scrolled through it on mute because I'm at work...what's the sample?

 

I don't need to know what his contract looked like in 1999 to know what it would look like in 2019.

 

Does anyone know what the Untitled songs that article is talking about?

 

I think the bottom line is unless we hear it from the band members themselves, we're never going to know who all contributed to Blink's previous albums other than the names in the booklets. Does it really even matter though?

 

Also I believe the "What Went Wrong" lyric tidbit is from the Tour program for the pop disaster tour. They had a write up on every song from TOYPAJ. They also said they were inspired by "Love Spit Love - Am I Wrong" which if any of you were too young to see the movie Angus when it came out in 1995 here you go: