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Taylor Swift - Lover (August 23, 2019) Album • Page 92

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by Garrett, Apr 25, 2019.

  1. So, Reputation to me felt like Taylor kinda just throwing a bunch of stuff at the wall, and not to say a lot of it didn’t stick, but the record has always just felt pretty disjointed to me. And listening to this, I didn’t really get that “oh this feels out of place” feeling at all.

    And I think that’s because this feels like the closest she’s come to creating an album that truly encapsulates all of the reasons we love her since Red. Like she’s certainly trying some stuff here, but imo none of it is like insane out-of-left-field kind of stuff, given her history.

    And THEN, I started thinking about how wild it is that this simultaneously also feels like the diametric opposition to Red — in that that record was like a country record with a few modern pop songs, and this one is a massive pop record with a few somber country songs. Idk, just kinda cool to think about how much that record resonated with people, and how making big strides to push her career forward eventually led to recapturing some of that magic by essentially inverting it. Not to mention how doing that has over time made her even more relevant than ever, haha

    Sorry for rambling, I felt sincere FOMO today not being able hear this with y’all! Tracks that were immediate loves for me — 10/18 ain’t bad!

    Cruel Summer
    Lover
    Miss Americana
    Death By 1000
    London Boy
    Soon You’ll Get Better
    False God
    Afterglow
    It’s Nice To Have A Friend
    Daylight
     
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  2. Neon Light Aug 23, 2019
    (Last edited: Aug 23, 2019)
    Neon Light

    rage and love

    I love her and this album so much. First listen was a much more instant yes than Reputation was first time around and I grew to adore that album. I was worried I wouldn’t connect to the lyrics because she’s in a different place to me at the moment but there were so many moments where I was just like “yes!” Such as “I Forgot That You Existed” and “Death By A Thousand Cuts”.
     
  3. Neon Light

    rage and love

    Daylight is definitely getting the Taylor alone with the piano treatment on tour.
     
  4. Garrett

    i tore a hole in the fabric of time Moderator

    happy release day!

    @personalmaps i think you’ll know the right places to find out which version I should get at target if you wouldn’t mind :crylaugh:
     
  5. mescalineeyes

    disappear among the sea of butterflies Prestigious

    releasing 4 versions of an album is high key predatory
     
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  6. shea

    RIP Supporter

    Nice to finally hear it in HQ this morning.

    I expect a breakdown of the special editions by the time I get off work today..lol
     
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  7. Garrett

    i tore a hole in the fabric of time Moderator

    miss Americana gets better with every listen
     
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  8. navidson

    Regular

    Three listens in

    London Boy is still horrific - might just be me being English that makes it so truly awful but hey!

    I Forgot That You Existed doesnt work as an opener for me - and is one of the weaker songs (made worse by the cringy fake laughing thing)

    Nice to see so many tinges of other current brilliant female artists throughout (I Think He Knows - Carly, The Man - Haim, Miss Americana - Lana)

    Overall its a fine album - cutting it down to 13/14 songs would made it better

    Oh, and why the weird hatred for ME! on this site?!
     
  9. Garrett

    i tore a hole in the fabric of time Moderator

    As of right now, Me! And YNTCD would both make my “13 song cut” so it’s weird that they’re considered the worst two on this by so many in here
     
  10. Garrett

    i tore a hole in the fabric of time Moderator

    Not saying I don’t need 15-20 listens more minimum before I’d even attempt resequencing for fun
     
  11. personalmaps

    citrus & cinnamon Prestigious

    I'm keeping an eye out - so far, it looks like there's one version that has All Too Well demo lyrics and one that has the full "ten minute" version. I'll do a bit of sleuthing to see if anyone has a definitive answer!

    I'm real tempted to do my own track by track tbh I love this album so much.
     
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  12. personalmaps

    citrus & cinnamon Prestigious

    @Garrett L. got it - deluxe version 1 has the first draft, deluxe version 4 has the final draft. The pages are on Reddit - I can post them here if people want to see, but don't want to spoil in case someone is really looking forward to seeing it in person first.

    edit: for clarity, there doesn't appear to be any version in here that would come close to 10 minutes, so we're still waiting for that myth to materialize. :')

    edit 2: someone also made a master post of what's in all the diaries on all the deluxes, like "age 13 - song title" etc.
     
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  13. Garrett

    i tore a hole in the fabric of time Moderator

    So version 4 is the one we’ve been wanting?
     
  14. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    It really does feel like a sequel to Red in a lot of ways, which is not to say it sounds like Red. But it's this similar technicolor mix of emotions, told from a different side of the journey. "Maybe I'll write a whole album about that kind of love if I ever find it," she wrote in the liner notes of Red. Well, here it is.
     
  15. personalmaps

    citrus & cinnamon Prestigious

    depends on what you want, tbh. it looks like version 4 is pretty much the same as the album version with some crossed out lines, version 1 has a few different lyrics.
     
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  16. personalmaps

    citrus & cinnamon Prestigious

    This post has a breakdown of what’s in each deluxe!
     
  17. Garrett

    i tore a hole in the fabric of time Moderator

    She’s really gonna make me buy 1 and 4 isn’t she
     
  18. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    NO ONE IS MAKING YOU DO ANYTHING GARRETT.
     
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  19. personalmaps

    citrus & cinnamon Prestigious

    playing with re-sequencing for fun now.
     
  20. Joe4th

    Memories are nice, but that's all they are. Prestigious

    How Cruel Summer was not the lead single from this is baffling
     
  21. Garrett

    i tore a hole in the fabric of time Moderator

    I KNOW BUT ALL TOO WELL

    tbh I may buy 1 and 4, keep the journal, and give one as a gift to the girl I went to the rep tour with
     
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  22. wow cruel summer is gonna be ginormous
     
  23. radiodead

    Trusted

    Yea they definitely gave Annie credit for that vocal melody on “Cruel Summer”. Very cool.
     
  24. personalmaps

    citrus & cinnamon Prestigious

    So here's a sequence where I'm trying to make it into a more cohesive narrative. I'm choosing to think of the album with three threads running through: politics and self-worth, a past relationship that was intense but didn't work, and a new love that's finally feels like what was missing from all your other relationships. I'm not 100% sure on this yet.

    1) The Man
    2) I Forgot That You Existed
    3) Miss Americana & The Heartbreak Prince
    4) It's Nice To Have A Friend
    5) Cruel Summer
    6) Death By A Thousand Cuts
    7) False God
    8) Cornelia Street
    9) The Archer
    10) Afterglow
    11) I Think He Knows
    12) Paper Rings
    13) Lover
    14) Soon You'll Get Better
    15) Daylight

    bonus tracks:
    16) London Boy
    17) You Need To Calm Down
    18) ME!
     
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  25. the man reminds me of something from tegan and sara’s love you to death
     
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