Accountability in Music • Page 302

Yeah after thinking about it I was like she probably did it on accident and thought she got hacked or something but if she's been doing that consistently nvm. but that makes me sad I love kacey, stooop.

 

Sam Ray calling out Mat Cothran for being a general shitty person, with his wife, Kitty, backing him up:

There's a bunch more Tweets from Sam Ray if you scroll down on his first tweet.

 

Re: Mat. If someone has read it all, could you give a summary/condensed version. I don’t have time to read a 30-long tweet thread + addition stuff from others at the moment.

 

He has been bad vibes foreverrrrrr so glad to have this shit in the open. Some of my tweets from 2015:

 

I've had my suspicions about him for a long-ass time - in fact I'm almost sure his shittiness has come up on this site before...?

 

Not surprised. I’ve had the unfortunate pleasure of being around him more than once and just from a language perspective, you can tell he’s a fucking garbage human. His choice of words + words he thinks is okay to use says enough about him.

 

violent + abusive to those around him/ general shitty person who gaslights all around him in order to justify his actions and blame others.

 

also, that saying about people in glass houses comes to mind for some reason

 

my friend said he liked cardi b more than nicki minaj i said why is this there need to compare the two. doesn't sit right with me cuz i hear that a lot.

 

am i wrong in thinking it's a comparison between black female artists like there can only be one or overreacting.

 

Maybe he meant because Cardi doesn't constantly support abusers

 

I mean, they were/are(?) engaged in a very public feud right? Decent chance it ain’t that deep.

 

Nicki Minaj sucks, but didn’t Cardi B used to rape, drug, rob unconscious men or something? I may be misremembering, sincere apologies if so, but didn’t something like that come out fairly recently?

 

I feel like this is a normal hip hop convo unless your friend is a scumbag already

 

he's not. this has been enlightening have a pleasant evening y'all

 

it was this btw

 

he meant well I was being dumb don't mind me

 

She used to drug and rob men yes but she didn't rape them.

 

Thanks for clarifying. That’s good to know.

 

ok just ignore all this I was in a bad mood I sound like an asshole here, I didn't mean to be dismissive, sorry. genuinely.

 

Drugging and robbing johns trying to purchase women’s bodies as commodities is like being Robin Hood in my honest opinion and is not the same thing at all as a man committing violence against women.

 

I meeean I'll throw my opinion into the Nicki v Cardi thing. I do think it's often a microaggression and at the least often comes from sexism. I guess my perspective being how women are constantly pitted against one another in pop culture. That attitude of THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE. Nobody cares how many whiny white dudes there are playing an acoustic guitar but as soon as a woman rises in the ranks she's compared to other women and torn down. I think this is especially true for women of color. There are so few WOC who are "allowed" to be successful at once already, and the comparisons always happen when someone new starts rising on the scene. You could argue that it's natural and happens to men too (and it does in some instances such as BSB v Nsync) but at the rate I see it happen to women I don't buy it

 

Re: Sam Ray/Mat Cothran (mostly re: Mat’s response where he discusses his childhood background and how he’s currently uninsured, suicidal, at the end of his rope, etc.... hard to call any of this “privilege”)

Seems like the real underlying issue here is that a lot of these artists have traumatic pasts or severe mental health issues that they’re unable to get help for partly because of the extent to which their work is materially devalued

 

“IN ONE IMPORTANT WAY, an abusive man works like a magician: His tricks largely rely on getting you to look off in the wrong direction, distracting your attention so that you won’t notice where the real action is. He draws you into focusing on the turbulent world of his feelings to keep your eyes turned away from the true cause of his abusiveness, which lies in how he thinks. He leads you into a convoluted maze, making your relationship with him a labyrinth of twists and turns. He wants you to puzzle over him, to try to figure him out, as though he were a wonderful but broken machine for which you need only to find and fix the malfunctioning parts to bring it roaring to its full potential. His desire, though he may not admit it even to himself, is that you wrack your brain in this way so that you won’t notice the patterns and logic of his behavior, the consciousness behind the craziness.”
— Lundy Bancroft, Why Does He Do That?: Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men