Sum 41 - Order In Decline (July 19, 2019) Album • Page 19

I looked at the pre sale and 33.50 before fees for one ticket is steep for me at the moment.

 

The Minneapolis show is like $45 before fees :/

 

Is there a link for the presales? Ticketmaster doesnt have any presales listed for the NYC show.

 

That's insane.

 

That show has a much larger line up than the rest, though, right?

 

Correct. But outside of Sum 41, not much I want to see unfortunately. Maybe Bowling For Soup? Idk.

 

Holy shit why do they hate the DC area so much

They literally never come here

 

Unfortunately I won't be able to do a show on this tour because I can't afford it.

 

If I go I'll have to shell out some money and also travel.....but I think it may be worth it because as a fan of their heavier stuff, I'm only going to get that on a headline show.

Their festival sets that always come through here, they are forced to play a lot of the In Too Deep, Fat Lip style songs and only get a small taste of the metal.

 

60? Ouch.

 

I'm just happy they are on there at all!

 

They were #7 with just physical sales though.

 

This album is fun as hell

 

Finally watched the video for Never There. Holy hell that was moving

 

They didn't really skimp on all 4 videos, all different and great. The promotion they did pre release for this album was great.

 

Wow that's crazy how much of a difference streaming makes.

The top 50 on the actual charts only has 3 rock albums, but the physical sales chart has 19 in the top 50.

 

Because rock is an album genre like country in terms of consumption, whereas mainstream rap is mostly a singles genre (as is a lot of mainstream pop I assume), but Billboard counts single song streams towards album streams provided they are on an album.

How Many Streams Is a T-Shirt Worth? Breaking Down Chart Dilemmas.

Great episode about this. The album charts are borderline nonsense.

 

So as Jason mentioned previously, I would think the band would be fairly happy with these results.

 

I'm listening to that podcast now and wow, it makes you realize how meaningless the billboard chart really is.

And seeing as this tour has them playing some of the biggest rooms in the US (NYC is a 4k cap, LA is a 5k cap), you're right I'm sure they're very happy

 

I consider YouTube views a more reliable metric of popularity than the charts tbh

 

The charts do reflect reality in some way, the categories are just outdated

 

Yeah the albums chart has just become another version of the singles chart.
Sum 41 sold 8,000 physical copies, but charted at 60.
Lil Nas X sold 386 copies, but because everyone's streaming that ONE song, the album charted at #4 this week.

I wish they only counted streaming for the singles charts, and kept the albums chart as purely physical/digital downloads. You can even keep ticket/merch bundles in there too.

 

That's so ridiculous.

 

Arguments against that would be that most people consuming albums probably don’t buy albums anymore if you look at the complete picture and that people always bought albums to only listen to the singles