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Ah, the very quick 13 second pause to stop a 3 word chant.

 

This scared me a lot.

 

Hillary ALWAYS had high favorability numbers when she wasn’t running for office. When she announced her candidacy they spiked down both times.

I can’t believe you’re trying to make the case that Joe Biden is/was less liked than Hillary Clinton, famous for being one of the least liked candidates ever. Meanwhile, “uncle joe”, obama’s Buddy, etc blah blah.

To put it another way: Biden wouldve won.

 

Wrong. Her numbers as a whole go down, but among dems voting for her, they were still high. She's running for office right there in the poll you're quoting where she's at 74% favs among Dems. On July 8th-21st in 2015. That's comparable to right now in this race.

Biden the "better candidate" is right now around 76%-78% among dems. (And with the public at large he's at 53% viewing him favorably and 35% unfavorably.)

Because it's literally untrue that at this point in the campaign she was less liked by the Democrats -- you know, the people that voted for her! Overwhelmingly!

 

He wouldn't have even won that primary.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 40% of Likely Democratic Voters believe Biden should run for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016. Slightly more (45%) think the vice president should sit this one out. Fifteen percent (15%) are undecided.

Among all likely voters, 36% say Biden should run, but 46% disagree. Eighteen percent (18%) are not sure. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Thirty-eight percent (38%) think Biden would make a better president than Clinton. Twenty-nine percent (29%) say Clinton would be a better chief executive. One-in-three voters (33%) is undecided.

Among Democrats, however, the numbers are reversed. Forty-four percent (44%) of these voters believe Clinton would be the better president, while 32% say Biden would do a better job. Twenty-four percent (24%) are not sure.

Rasmussen Reports last pitted Biden against Clinton and several other prominent national Democrats in November, and he earned just seven percent (7%) support among likely Democratic voters to her 62%. In August of last year without Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren in the mix, Biden ran a distant second to Clinton- 63% to 12%.

 

Imagine going to the mat for "Biden is a better candidate" when he's actually in a way worse spot than Hillary was at this point in the race.

 

Boo

 

I feel like the most positive thing anyone has said about him is that he's a harmless moron lol

 

I never said she was “less liked by Democrats”, I said she was less liked. And she was! Sexism plays a part in it but there’s a reason why her likability is talked about as a big factor in why she couldn’t beat Trump while Biden’s shortcomings in a race would be more problems with the left wing base, not his being unable to get swing and low information voters to like him. And a lot of it is because the GOP didn’t spend 25 years of sexist attack’s trying to make him seem like a corrupt shrew.

 

Hillary had one opponent. One. Well, two if you count O’Malley.

Let’s put her in this race with these candidates and see how she does.*



*=let’s please NOT do this tho

 

And part of why she only had one other opponent was because of her perceived strength as a candidate. YOu're arguing against yourself now.

You're just ignoring, flat out for some reason, that she was very popular with the people voting for her in the primary.

 

I think Hillary would wipe the floor with these candidates (in 2016)

 

Wow don’t talk about David like that

 

Any time there’s like three new pages of the Politics thread in a matter of an hour or two, I’m always hoping it’s some crazy big news. But it’s always David had some hot take that’s getting dunked on like Ty Lue.

 

jason is obviously right but god damn this argument sucks please argue about anything other than biden vs hilary. like do pete vs beto or something, anything

 

moron definitely but idk if the girls and women he's been around would call him harmless

 

I was one of those people! I didn’t want him to run because I didn’t want him to damage HRC’s chances once it became apparent that she was basically gonna have a clear path to the nomination, especially later in the campaign when people were saying he should jump in and take over after all the email BS came to light. But in hindsight, he would have been the better candidate against Trump. So would Bernie.

 

I'm saying what boomers think, I know he's a creep Dylan

 

Her favorability was above 60%, with the entire public, while SOS.

Biden's average, right now: 47%/43%.
Clinton, on July 18th, 2015, average: 47/44.



You are wrong.

To win the election, you need the Democratic Party to vote for you, they have very close to the exact same favs, at this point in the race, amongst the democratic part that will be voting for the person in, potentially, two elections.

You can't make a "Biden is a better candidate" argument because more people like him, when it's not true. Not with the base. Not at this point in the race with the public.

 

It's honestly the path that most of the Last Jedi haters would have preferred Luke to go down.

 

Mayor Pete acknowledged Old Town Road, Beto was descended from slave owners

 

pete lets cops shoot POC in his town, beto reunited the mars volta

 

biDEn iS a bETTer canDidAtE

I'm so tired of having to point out the same facts over and over again.