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Yeah Varys didn’t care if it was a man or woman on the throne, he just mentioned it being a plus that Jon was a man because Westerosi lords are more likely to follow men, in addition to him having the better claim.

 

Oh wow I love him so much. And hey, he’s also specifically bummed!

 

Didn’t he say something to Jon specifically about a man making decisions this episode or did I hear that wrong? The part about that with Tyrion was fine except for the specific dialogue which we talked about the other day.

 

V: We both know what she's about to do.
J: [SIGHS] That's her decision to make. She is our queen.
V: Men decide where power resides, whether or not they know it.
J: What do you want?
V: All I've ever wanted. The right ruler on the Iron Throne. I still don't know how her coin has landed. But I'm quite certain about yours.
J: I don't want it.

 

It's a callback to a line from one of the first seasons.

 

read the book

he's a corny dweeb who gives bad interviews. hardly the first person that provides fantastic content that we can say that about.

 

That was it, thank you! I definitely misheard it as him speaking of Jon singularly in that line, but it still does take her out of control a lot even as it stands.

 

Flies are where men are most vulnerable!

Wait, that’s not right.......

 

This show is our generation’s Dallas

 

There's this convo from S2.

 

Thoughts.
- I’m happy we finally got to see Brans vision of Drogon’s shadow flying over King’s Landing.
- wow I went from “fuck yeah!” To “NOOO!” Real quick there with Dany’s destruction
- It was quite heartbreaking to watch Jon’s army apparently win without too much death followed by “uh..i guess we continue to kill then.”
- To me Cleganebowl was satisfying, as I pretty much started crying when Sandor pushed the Mountain into the fire below.
- Jamie with Tyrion and Cersei at the end were also very emotional. It’s funny how we wanted to see Jaime kill Cersei but at the same time this felt right too (for me at least)
- I predict the finale will piss off more people then Lost did, and unfortunately that’s mostly what people will remember from the show from now on.
- Yeah I’m placing bets on Jon killing Dany now.
- I missed Sansa this week :(

 

supporting actors opinions on the quality of the show couldn't matter less to me. im sure vinny pastore thinks the first few seasons of sopranos are the best since he was barely in the back half lol. im sure the bros who played the sobotkas think the wire s2 is the best. who tf cares.

 

So let's say Dany dies in the finale. That would mean as a direct result of Robert Baratheon being a possessive shitbag he wiped out the Targaryens, Starks, Martells, Tyrells, Baratheons (temporarily), Boltons, Greyjoys, Tarlys (temporarily), Karstarks, and Umbers.

 

man y'all really hate this show, huh

 

The show is going to end as a dream and we’re gonna see Ned taking a shower

 

Uuuuugh that was such a classic scene. I never took that to be specifically about men as in males though, which was the difference in how the emphasis last night stood out to me. Could have just been in the line reading or direction of course.

 

He's trying to manipulate Jon into turning against her. He doesn't actually believe that a man would be better suited for the throne than a woman. He's been tirelessly working since before the show even starts to put a woman on the throne lol

Also in that exchange I feel like he meant "men" as a general term for people, like the people decide where power resides. Because that's how he meant it in the season 2 scene with Tyrion.

 

That’s really dismissive of people who have put a ton of work into this. Just because they aren’t A list stars doesn’t mean they can’t be invested in their characters or their arcs.

 

I don’t hate the show but I’d be lying if I said I was invested in it like I was at its peak. The quality just isn’t the same and maybe it was doomed to end up like it is now. However, it’s still a bummer to try to get through this and be disappointed about the writing has been versus how it used to be.

 

i mean, if they provide nuance, sure it can be useful. basically saying "i think the seasons were bad because i was in them less and i didnt get one more scene with my buddy" kinda sucks and provides nothing lol.

 

To be faaaaaaiiirrrr, I did mention that in my original post about it a few minutes ago. His turn away from whispers and riddles to more plain and open speaking definitely made a lot of what he said this season seem to be coming from a different place or goal. He obviously needed Gina and Boyle to help with this campaign...

 

Well, that and not having the source material made the writing and production take a dip; which it did.

 

I honestly don't think the writing took that much of a hit until season 7. And even then, it was more because of the shortened season and not because of the lack of book material. Martin walked them through where the story was going. The actual events that happened are essentially what's going to happen in the books too, if they're ever finished. They just shouldn't have asked for shorter seasons.

 

hasn't your argument from like the last five pages (which i agree with) been that the writing didn't really dip and was par for the course, good and bad, for much of the run?

production gripes are insane to me. there is bad writing this season (and every other season before it), for sure. the production of the show is kinda unparalleled and i doubt we'll ever see anything like this in episodic seasonal television again.