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Plot twist: Tyrion was working for Cersei all along and infiltrated Daenerys' court in order to betray her at the last second

 

I think it's her fault. She's the one who insisted on pushing to King's Landing without even bothering to rest her troops.

 

I miss Tywin. He would have made this happen.

 

For real. Sansa tried to warn her. This is all on her and her impatience to sit the throne before word about Jon gets out.

 

I'm trying to remember that meeting and how many people advised against it. I think Sansa suggested they rest their troops?

 

haha.....though I do think he promised Cersei her baby would be named heir if/when Dany dies childless, which Dany would definitely consider a "betrayal" IMO

 

If that's the case, though, the promise was probably made with in return for Cersei promising to send her army to help fight the Night King, which didn't happen lol. Additionally, it's not really a promise that he can keep anymore now that Jon has the stronger claim to the throne.

 

For real. At this point Charles Dance's voice through a megaphone could win the war against these fools.

 

True. But if Dany finds out about it later, that would make me worried for Tyrion. She found out about Jorah long after the fact and still exiled him. She likes Tyrion a LOT less lol

That was my first thoughts in Episode 1 when Bran was giving Tyrion the hard stare.

 

Tyrion secretly being a traitor the WHOLE time would make so many people angry, but at least it would help explain why he’s held the idiot ball so much lately for no reason whatsoever.

 

It still feels weird that we could potentially be seeing numerous characters that have been here since the beginning die next week

 

I take it to be that GRRRRRRRM has said that dragons are basically invulnerable in the air, and that the only one dragon in the whole of Westeros history was taken down by an arrow by Drone during Aegon's conquering, and that it was a one in a million shot as it went through the eye

Show canon however has shown the dragons are basically made of paper and easy to kill

 

Sure, I can get how book canon says one thing and show canon says another. But this is the show, so I'll use that canon, know what I mean?

 

hadn't read the articles that were linked on the last page but it says basically that. has this ever been discussed on the show?

I'm very over this show, and would love for that reddit leak list to be true to watch the fandom burn down. its slowly lost its way since they ran out of books.

 

If there's any truth to those spoilers, holy shit that's dark

 

The later part of that article where it talks about Euron’s failure in the story in general is much better than anything about the impossibility of killing a dragon or whatever.

 

I love the nicknames for horny steampunk plot device pirate Euron

 

I've been searching for this quote and I can't find it. The quote from GRRM really makes it sound like the shot that took one down was an insanely lucky shot and not the type of thing that can be repeated easily. Three times. From a ship. Sailing forward. Being buffeted by waves and wind.

For me, the dragon getting killed by Euron in that way was a bunch of things that I think they are doing poorly slamming into each other. In my opinion, they are rushing too fast through the story. Euron is overpowered and too lucky without explanation. The dragons were much too weak, but I suppose the writers didn't think overpowered dragons lead to enough drama.

Daenarys didn't need 3 dragons and 10,000 Dothraki - she just needed one Euron Greyjoy and a catapault bow thingy.

 

Reading that first article really made me much, much, much less happy about the way things are going on the show right now...

 

The theme of, “I’m not upset at this happening in theory, but incredibly disappointed in the execution,” really sums up everything about this season to me.

Euron killing a dragon, Arya/Gendry, Jaime/Brienne, Jaime going back to kill Cersei, Dany seemingly getting burn happy, these are all things that I either was actually rooting for or at least could understand in the right context. But so far that has all fallen flat from the pacing and the writing, and it’s hard to get bogged down in arguments about the what when it’s really the how that is the problem.

 

kind of a bummer that this has become a very anti GoT space

it's still a great show, decline in overall quality aside.

 

I always thought the show had a lot of problems, even though I enjoy watching it immensely, so seeing a lot of this criticism now makes me roll my eyes really fucking hard.

 

Yeah. I go days without reading this thread now because it almost feels bad to enjoy it in here.

Second episode of this season is one of the best of the whole series for me, so this “dip” in quality really isn’t that noticeable for me.

 

I don’t think any GOT space is very positive this week, lol.