2019-2020 NFL Season Thread [ARCHIVED] Football • Page 397

Those guys still suck

They still win, but they won with Gronk, Hogan, Edelman, and White/Michel

They get too much credit for signing scrubs that usually don’t do a damn thing for them

 

Checks history...sees the name "Trent Brown" and moves on with my day.

 

Trent Brown is good

He was talented before he signed with them

 

The 49ers would disagree with you since they gave him away lol

 

Besides Gronk/Michel....Hogan was undrafted and played for the Bills before joining the Pats where he found success. Edelman was a 7th round pick. White was a mid round pick. None of those guys were destined to be stars, but the Pats find a way to bring out the best in their players. Hell, look at last year, they went out and signed Cordarelle Patterson on a bargain deal since he was viewed as a bust, they ended up using him quite a bit last year (even at RB).

 

You’ve gotta be reasonably good to be traded for a 3/5 swap with how bad pick compensation normally is for players on expiring deals

 

Yeah, but that’s great scouting with Edelman and White. Homegrown, drafted talent.

The players you mentioned earlier are washed.

Chris Hogan had the nickname 7/11 before he signed in New England. He could play before he got there.

Occasionally they’ll hit on a bargain bin player, but more often than not they just sign bums that stay bums and people just assume because they’re going to NE that they’re going to change.

 

The 49ers stink

 

White has production you’d expect from a mid round RB that pans out, Patterson was not a particularly good WR3, Hogan is barely putting up better numbers than when he was in Buffalo, and Edelman was an awesome snag that was 10 years ago

 

And here, we find common ground lol

 

So he's right about this part. The overwhelming majority of the Patriots impact players are drafted and developed. Stephon Gillmore and what was Trent Brown were really the two biggest factors from other teams.

They do a great job of scouting and drafting to fill out the team, and use free agency to add depth and fill out the rest.

The difference between them and other teams...gonna pick on the Raiders for a second...is that the Patriots consider free agency a way to compliment where bad teams like the Raiders use free agency as a main team building tool, suck at drafting and suffer long term consequences.

 

This has been the Jets problem as well

 

I thought if i said the jets you'd find that inflammatory and be mad at me haha

 

Not if it’s true

Hopefully now that we might actually have a QB, that strategy will change

 

This is spot on. When I made my first comment, that's all I was trying to get at. You don't see the Pats going out and making big name signings. They fill their holes with either cheaper FAs or depth guys, and it works incredibly well.

 

I actually know what this is!

 

I think all of this is true, but IMO they do better with the already talented guys they get at discounts through the trade market or their bigger ticket FA signings, while they get too much credit for all the actually bad players they sign and people assume they will suddenly be good because they’re on the Patriots

 

The part I don’t get is debits equaling credits. Wouldn’t that mean you only broke even?

 

-$100 debit and $100 credit equals $0, so yes, it's breaking even and being balanced.

 

Also I don’t think the Pats sign shitty players. They sign decent players who were misused and looked worse than they are on their former team, and then coach / use them properly.

 

I know but wouldn’t you want your credits to exceed your debits in a business? I’m probably misinterpreting what that refers to

 

Ideally yeah, but I'm sure he meant it in a way that "at least" they have to equal.

Although, tons of people/business operate at a loss constantly, so...

 

TJ Yeldon is shitty

 

You're thinking of it more in terms of banking and not accounting.

You buy a piece of equipment for 10K. Debit Equipment 10K, credit cash 10K.

You want to depreciate that piece of equipment over 60 months. So month one you debit depreciation expense $167 and credit accumulated depreciation $167.

 

Ohhh. So it basically matches up the intrinsic value of assets with the cash spent on them. Got it.