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Fair enough.

 

Do you not take issue with taxing addiction though? Maybe I would be more supportive if the taxes went towards providing cessation mechanisms. Right now when we look at looming regulations and outright bans of electronic cigarettes we can see that legislators are actually helping to prevent people from quitting buy trying to stomp out a budding industry that sells a product that is shown to be substantially healthier than smoking (though still not entirely without it's own minor issues).

 

Why isn't alcohol taxed more than cigs? There are far more alcohol related deaths than cigs, especially considering killing other people while under the influence, unless you count second hand smoking and stillborn babies, but that can't be a big percentage in comparison.

 

Tax breaks for vapes!

 

Because alcohol is more socially acceptable

 

They were hand in hand 50 years ago, wonder what exactly changed.

 

I wish I could have a drink and a smoke sitting in my cubicle right now.

 

Yes pls if only #BigTobacco didn't hate vapes

 

Unfortunately I think the results on people using e-cigs to quit have been mixed at best. Seen some studies say it helps people quit, and others say it doesn't. And of course the worries that it's actually increasing nicotine use/addiction among children/young adults who don't see it as "smoking". Not sure how founded those are, though, never looked into it much.

I think the federal government already spends a decent amount of money on smoking prevention programs, products, and hotlines. I know a lot of states have their own programs, as well. But I know the FedGov has a few programs designed to help people quit, and throws some funding behind private institutions that do the same. I would like to see that spending increased too, but I'd also rather see something like universal pre-k get the funding first.

 

My dad would tell me back in the 80's that in an office it was perfectly normal for the boss to have a bottle of something and bust it out during small meetings.

American Psycho and Mad Men were two of the best work environments.

 

*Best work environments for white men

 

Alright.

Do other races of men not like to drink/smoke at work?

 

I would suggest looking into it more. Specifically the differences between straight nicotine use, versus the thousands of chemicals and carcinogens found in your average cigarette. What's interesting is the while nicotine is the addicting agent, it actually isn't much worse for you than caffeine is. It's the burning of the tobacco, the tar, and various other chemicals in an average cigarette that causes lung cancer.

Now, is using an e-cig like eating Kale? Of course not, you are still inhaling something other than fresh air. Probably has some micro-particles from the cotton and the coil, but likely no worse for you than the air you are currently breathing.

 

Oh I know the nicotine itself isn't the big problem with cigs as far as health issues go, but the worry is kids and young adults using e-cigs now will move onto the real thing as they get older/have more access to it/etc.

Not that nicotine is super healthy of course lol, but yeah, the worry is more with the addiction and how people will acquire their "fix" down the line.

 

They don't get hired in those environments in the first place

 

I literally cannot imagine any circumstance where someone goes from e cigs to cigs. E cigs make cigs taste like absolute ass

 

Other races, and women as well, probably like to not be harassed, underpaid, and generally treated poorly in the work environment by drunk white guys.

They get enough of that outside of work I'm sure. Just seems weird to long for the "good ol' days" when those days were so terrible for so many.

 

Ohhh alright, I wasn't sure.

 

I have heard that concern. I am sure that will happen in some cases but I suspect for the majority of users, an e-cig is far more desirable than a traditional cigarette. Tastes better, no smell etc...

 

I know it's fiction, but the women that worked at Sterling Cooper, especially the secretaries, seemed pretty damn happy to be there, especially when being gallivanted around by one of the ad guys.

 

I wonder how many women were on that writing staff...

 

It was mostly women.

 

2 out of the 5 EP's were women, not sure of the writers, though.

 

That's dope

 

Meet Mad Men's 5 woman writers - Fortune