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Accountability in Music • Page 214

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by OhTheWater, Nov 14, 2017.

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  2. Wil Wagner can get in the bin where he belongs. Hope Jeff Rosenstock says something about this since he produced their last record.
     
  3. Aregala

    Blistering Guitar Lead

     
  4. Tom

    It's way too late, or much too early Prestigious

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  5. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

    someone took the doing an unnecessary carbon copy of Taylor Swift thing too far
     
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  6. stars143

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    I'm no expert and I'm not positive if it would apply to this situation, but my understanding is that Australia has more strict libel laws than the US, which could make people in that scene hesitant to make public statements. See Geoffrey Rush's recent "misconduct" allegations for reference on how their system is different.
     
  7. slowheart Feb 22, 2019
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    Wouldn’t expect to hear anything else from Capsize.

    Band just straight up deleted their Twitter.

    Edit: all of their social media is gone. Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. Some members also deleted all of their personal accounts as well.
     
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  8. ItsAndrew

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  9. personalmaps

    citrus & cinnamon Prestigious

    Seems counter productive to blame fellow abuse victims for what a man did. Those tweets make me sad.
     
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  10. Tom

    It's way too late, or much too early Prestigious

    Yeah this aint it. "You are also an enabler and no better than Ryan". ?????????!?
     
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  11. 'if you, a person that has been abused, ignore my story, you are no better than the person we were both abused by and are in fact an enabler of his behaviour.'

    What, pray tell, the fuck?
     
  12. Kiana

    Goddamn, man child Prestigious

    It's just sad. Idk. It's sad that so few voices even get heard that there's this feeling of "competition" of voices idk idk I hope she has support and receives any help she needs. I can't imagine her frustration of filing reports and feeling ignored, altho I find her frustration misplaced. Instead of putting it towards the other female victims and survivors it would be productive to direct it towards the patriarchal institutions that have ignored her or shut her down. But I can't even imagine how it'd feel to see ur abuser finally get outed and still have your story ignored. Hope she has loved ones to help her process this trauma.
     
  13. Maddy

    Regular

    While this may not be the best way to express her feelings, I think there is part of this tweet that rings very true. Which is to say, that despite how horrific or bad the abusers behaviors are, a lot of times reporters use it for clicks especially in the message board and twitter age. Corrine's story would not get the attention of MM or Phoebe which is why she feels ignored.
     
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  14. The original NYT article included multiple anonymous sources (seven women). And the authors Joe Coscarelli and Melena Ryzik have contact information on the website -- I feel weird tweeting at someone randomly so I'm not gonna, but I'd recommend she reach out to them, not Phoebe. Joe follows me on Twitter, and I can put them in contact if she messages me as well.
     
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  15. Cardia

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    I legitimately had no idea about any of this stuff about Capsize and now I don't think I'll be listening to them anymore. Like... they weren't my favorite or anything, but I admittedly have a soft spot for shit that sounds like 2004/2005 Underoath. But now everything about their music just seems gross. The way they're handling this just screams of guilt.
     
  16. BenSmith94

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    That Wil Wagner stuff surfaced a few days ago and I only just heard about it (I live in Australia).

    There has not been ANY mention of it in the Australian music media. That is deadset worrying. The silence is deafening.
     
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  17. Music Editor at Junkee has shared tweets about it but can’t really do anything beyond that, unfortunately. Stumbled across this tweet and I’m incredibly upset

     
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  18. BenSmith94

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    Hadn't seen the Junkee tweets. I feel like there have been similar allegations against bands/musicians in the past where the allegations have been aired, but could be getting confused. Still disappointing though. Given their love for drama, figured Music Feeds would have bit the bullet and aired the allegations.
     
  19. Windowsdown

    I loved Capsize. I'm deeply upset that they deleted everything instead of facing the music. They're even worse than all the bands that post bullshit apologetic statements.
     
  20. angel paste

    grey hairs, get out of me zoots! Prestigious

    i bet they’re going to come back as a different band and continue doing the same shit
     
  21. Henry

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  22. Shrek

    can't be made fun of Prestigious

    was just coming on to see if anything more had come out re: Smith Street Band. a google search for “Smith Street Band allegations” returns nothing related. very disappointing
     
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  24. VanMastaIteHab

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    Jesusssssss fuck that.
     
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  25. sophos34

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    her Instagram caption is incredible.
     
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