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oK if you want to lump ATL, 5sos , blink and Nfg together , we can agree to disagree there
Go peep what Eric Melvin put in the NOFX book about blink. Penny wise and Bad Religion toured with blink. Descendents asked them to open for them.
Also Joey Cape had nothing but good things to say here :

 

I would love a burrito.

 

I'm Feeling This (Burrito)

 

the first verse of Rabbit Hole sounds like something Avril Lavigne would do...

 

Yes, now, years later Joey says good things. What does that have to do with when he used to take cracks at them after they toured together on stage during shows? I saw him do it. And I've seen and heard NOFX talk about Blink for 20+ years now (and talk about turning down millions of dollars to open for Blink in that very book)! I didn't say every band did, I said there were plenty from the "old guard" of pop-punk that called the band sell outs and would talk shit about them on stage all the time. It is absurd to me that anyone would have lived through that era and not seen this.

 

Engineers sit back and press buttons. Every producer digs in on their projects in order to improve the songs the band brings them.

In this case, Feldmann threw out the songs the band brought him and helped them write material from scratch before production began.

 

So i'll be in California all next week on business and it's a bummer I don't have the album to jam out to while I'm there.

Also, if anyone from San Francisco or San Diego has any suggestions on what I should do, let me know. Or if you want to grab a beer or ten.

 

Never said it didn't exist , but there's a fine line between cracking jokes and legit disdain.

 

Jason, what's your favorite Tom-lead Blink song of all time?

 

Saying Blink-182 was "ruining punk rock" is not just "cracking jokes" ... this was everywhere when the band broke out. The Offspring were given more punk rock cred than Blink ever was.

 

"Easy Target."

 

There are plenty of producers who don't do much besides tell people which takes are good and which are bad.

Feldmann helps every band with songwriting.

 

You are acting like the major label backlash in 99 was gospel for the entire scene. It wasn't. And a lot of that backlash was not their fault and died down

 

Jason was saying the "for" was "Lord", the "now" was never in question lol

 

I thought it was meow

 

I didn't ever say it was gospel for the entire scene. I said it existed. It did. You now also agree that it existed. It has for almost every single band that's broken out from the "rock" scene for decades. Now, finally, we have a generation of people that were called sellouts when they were coming up now as the "grandfathers" in the scene, therefore, they are more willing to embrace the bands coming up and help them instead of push them through the same bullshit they went through. It's why you see Patrick Stump working with 5 Seconds of Summer, or Mark Hoppus giving them advice. Because they are more accepted now than either of their bands were in their moment of explosion.

 

Dude I never said it didn't man. Jeez. I personally just don't care for 5SOS nor get your need to defend them and the ATLs of the world.

 

That could just be the way things are now. It's not as "cool" to hate on people in your genre or adjacent genres nowadays.

Can't even remember how this debate started or what it's even about now, but I feel like blink have always been the nice guys. Never the ones to insult any other artists like some of their predecessors.

 

So just out of curiosity, why is Feldmann slimy for working with 5SOS? Not trying to get into an argument by any means. Just curious.

 

I would really love if they took PUP on tour with them, that's the kind of energy we need before blink goes on

 

Because, as I said, they're the Blink-182 for the following generations of fans. They got people into pop-punk music. And if I defend the crappy punk rock of one group from the elitist too-punk crowd when I'm 15. Which I did as a Blink fan in 1999. I'll defend the next wave as well from those that are too close minded to see the parallels. What Blink is to you, is what All Time Low is to people 1/2 your age. And you're doing to them and their fans what you would have hated all the 30 year old punk rockers doing to Blink and your cargo shorts wearing ass when you were a kid.

And calling Feldy "slimy" because he works with kids (and adults) that like making pop-punk and helps them make music and likes his job is fucked up.

 

He doesn't help Blink with songwriting: he is song-writing. There's a big difference.

Most producers who are solely credited as producers HELP with songwriting.

A producer/co-writer is actually writing songs with the band.

(I've worked with three producers in my life.)

 

This is ridiculously untrue. What a song writing credit on a song could amount to could be very very very little (or the "help" someone got writing a song could also amount to zero credit); you never know for sure as a universal and it's changed mightily over the past few years because of royalty rates.

 

And Feldmann's business agreement is likely structured such that he gets a cut of the songwriting for the projects he works on.

 

you advocate social equality (much respect)

do u feel any dissonance betwixt that social imperative and the latent misogyny oozing outta all that pop punk of yesteryear?