Pinegrove - Skylight (September 28, 2018) Album • Page 79

There should not be two separate threads

 

Lmao

 

On topic: this dude literally wants to keep taking up space in the music scene after fucking up someone’s life. That’s pretty wild to me and says a lot about his priorities & ego.

If you commit sexual coercion from a position relating to your platform and you genuinely feel sorry about it I don’t see how you could want to keep your platform.

The donating money thing is funny, because it’s clear this whole project is primarily a vehicle for Evan to secure praise/validation, which isn’t what’s being donated.

 

Not really sure this fully constitutes as sexual assault. At least that’s something I can’t seem to figure out. This wasn’t a criminal act, it was something really shitty but still not sure it was an act that someone shouldn’t be able to come back from.

 

I have been ruminating on this for a while now. As someone who faced emotional abuse and manipulation from a previous relationship, I can't articulate how much it has affected me. I can look at the person who I was with and know that they are not terrible but I now have severe anxiety stemming from the situation that I doubt I will ever get over. Like with this, it's more than just the fact that it wasn't physical and I understand completely the trepidation from people on this thread to just move past this one because it lacks the 'severity' of some of the other situations. The amount of positives that having this conversation can bring is exponential. If it makes all of us just a little bit more self-aware of our actions and relationships with each other then it's worth challenging the discourse.

 

thanks for sharing your experience. I agree all the conversation in here has been pretty productive, and important.

 

I'm sorry, assault?

Unless I'm missing some new development, this is such a delusional/fucked up thing to say and you should be ashamed

 

Replace “assault” with “coercion”, point still stands

Also lol at “you should be ashamed”

 

also lol at you throwing the word assault around, fuck off

 

That was an easy block

 

It's almost like words mean something.

 

You guys may not realize this, but there's a somewhat oppressive vibe in here.

 

Shit really? I think we’ve been pretty understanding

 

Why?

 

Again, people have stated the claims aren’t as casual as suggested and there are other victims. I’m not claiming there’s assault, but we don’t know what happened still. Relax

 

Did they intentionally quote sublime on this record? “Saying I’m happy when I’m not. Finding roaches in the pot.”

 

I think things would be pretty chill if people who aren’t listening to the album would respect the people that are listening. Discussion on both should exist but if you try to push the music discussion out, people are just going to go elsewhere which won’t be as educational as this thread could be/has been.

 

How did the ruthless, malevolently abusive monster that is Evan Stephens Hall manage to 'sexually coerce' (Whatever the hell that means) an able minded, able bodied adult married lady?

I would suggest that 'sexual coercion' occurs within a hell of a lot of relationships - Including many considered to be 'normal' and 'healthy'

 

Nahh. Just don’t

 

This isn't a 'devils advocate' type post - I'm not trying to cause a massive ruck on here

I've spent months and months reading between the lines, barely understanding the language being used to describe various situations and not really understanding - Maybe it's a generation thing?

 

You're totally right so sorry that us non listeners are being so rude and abrasive.

 

I'm sorry?????? I'm so scared for all the women in your life

 

Don't be

I'm reading 'sexual coercion' as 'power imbalance' until somebody actually details what he's accused of doing

 

Yeah one of the issues is that our culture considers relationships with sexual coercion to be normal. It shouldn't. That's kind of one of the points of this whole thing. A cultural shift is needed.