Eminem - Kamikaze (August 31, 2018) Album • Page 5

Licensed to Ill backwards is better than this thing. Someone tell him having Paul Rosenberg on a skit saying the album is terrible doesn’t make up for the album being terrible

 

This made me laugh. and because I like that you have Kermit as your picture.

 

from Justin Vernon's twitter:

 

Man... why couldn’t this have just not have been a thing lol

 

The irony will be the MAGA edgelord dorks will trade this song around now and it'll gain in notoriety because it gets "killed."

 

Surely you see the irony here

 

I don’t

 

What I want to know and I dunno if it’s clear is if Justin made the track with Mike Will knowing it was for Eminem or that it was just a random beat to sell. If he knew it was for Eminem then he shouldn’t be surprised that hateful lyrics were used because that’s Eminem’s only gimmick

 

It's definitely fair to wonder about that.

I'm just bummed that this is all happening the same day as the BRM release and I'm sure he is as well. He's going to make one group of people angry either way. Tons of people calling him names now for wanting to have that track taken down. I'm not even sure how that's possible at this point.

 

I will go to the grave thinking he got robbed not getting AOTY at the Grammys for it, it’s honestly one of the best albums of the decade period.

 

The irony of this record is rich when you go back to some of the stuff he said on Recovery:

"I went away, I guess, and opened up some lanes
But there was no one who even knew
I was goin' through growin' pains
Hatred was flowin' through my veins
On the verge of goin' insane
I almost made a song dissin' Lil Wayne
It's like I was jealous of him 'cause of the attention he was gettin'
I felt horrible about myself, he was spittin' and I wasn't
Anyone who was buzzin' back then coulda got it
Almost went at Kanye too
God, it feels like I'm goin' psychotic, thank God that I didn't do it"

Like how can you acknowledge almost a decade ago that going after the new school of rappers after your album flops just comes across as bitter, toxic jealousy and then make this album? How can you go from "thank god I didn't release that Wayne diss over my jealousy" to going at Yachty (which, btw, what is this, 2016? Yachty hasn't been remotely popping since before Teenage Emotions dropped), making a Hopsin-level-bad parody of Bad & Boujee (a song that inarguably changed the face of mainstream hip-hop and turned Migos into a household name), and using a homophobic slur to insult the creator of one of the best queer rap albums ever created just because he didn't like your bad pop-rap single?

I haven't really liked Eminem since like freshman year of high school, but this is just the final nail in the coffin for me. He's a legacy artist who had a string of great releases in the late '90s and early 2000s, fell off, and has been clinging to the shock rap tactics that haven't aged well at all ever since. I think this is way worse than Revival, honestly, because it comes across as both disparate and remarkably out of touch, not only with the current face of hip-hop, but with himself.

 

And yeah Justin being on the song that uses the f-slur against Tyler is gross, I want to give him benefit of the doubt and assume that he made the track with Mike Will not knowing where it'd end up, but that takes so many leaps of logic to come down on.

 

Have you seen his tweets? He asked for the lyric to be changed and is in the process of getting the song down

 

What does “get the song down” even mean? It’s on a damn album that’s been released.

 

TLOP says hi

 

Yeah I did see the tweets, that's why I want to give him benefit of the doubt, but it's so hard for me to believe that this album came out without him or anyone on his team knowing that it'd end up being on an Eminem song on hearing the shit he says on it

 

Idk if he’d straightup lie about hearing it. He says he wasn’t in studio, heard the lyrics and asked them to change it

 

Of the 21st century, really

 

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what he's saying on Twitter and that he's not defending it, I just personally don't buy the story

 

Why wouldn’t you buy his side of the story

 

What is there to buy?

He wasn’t in the studio with Eminem. He tried to get them to change it, it didn’t work. Now he is doing more to have something happen.

 

from a legal standpoint, what can actually be done? (genuinely curious if anyone is in the know with law terms here)

 

I think Justin probably didn't care all that much about the lyrics if he heard it. I don't think he did everything in his power to change the track or remove himself from it. Unless he signed a supremely awful contract or something, there is no reason why he couldn't have contacted Eminem's or Mike Will's team and had his vocals removed from the song. The whole thing just comes across as a very bad look to me. Good on him for now saying that he's trying to kill the track but if you can do it now, after you're getting a bunch of tweets about how bad of a look it is...why couldn't you have done that before the song released?

 

Weird conclusion to come to based on what we know. Idk why everyone is all guilty until proven innocent in regards to Justin on this.

 

Would likely depend on the terms of the agreement in place between the interested parties.

It does most likely become more difficult now that the song is officially released as part of the album. Plus, from a non-legal standpoint, you most likely end up having to deal with the Streisand effect.