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Star Wars Universe (Rebels, Clone Wars, Comics, Books, Video Games) • Page 49

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by Melody Bot, Jan 9, 2016.

  1. aoftbsten

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    Yes
     
  2. Dodger

    “The greatest teacher, failure is”

    Bummed about Obi-Wan, but Ewan can still play him years from now.

    Also when the spin offs come back hopefully they can ditch the “a Star Wars story” thing
     
  3. Dodge725

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    I think by the time Celebration comes around we’ll get an announcement of the next trilogy/series and once that gets going we might get spin-offs back. I don’t mind them wanting to get the big ticket items right before focusing on the smaller items.
     
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  4. Dodger

    “The greatest teacher, failure is”

    I think the biggest thing for me to take out of this is they are at least apparently going ahead with Rian's trilogy which is the best news imaginable. GOT guys was going to happen, but Rians I was unsure.

    Cant fucking wait to see what Rian creates with a blank slate and 3 movies to tell a story.
     
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  5. ship90

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    Follow up from SWNN:

    “In light of the director change and having to nearly reshoot the entire movie, Lucasfilm wanted to move Solo: A Star Wars Story to December 2018, but Disney had enough of their previous films’ delays and put their foot down. Our source tells us that Disney granted Lucasfilm the budget and time to make all the production changes they needed to fix anything broken with Solo, but that they had to make the May 25th release date.

    In addition to this, Disney told Lucasfilm that they would not let Solo interfere with their plans for Avengers: Infinity War, meaning Solo would not get any preferential treatment in marketing to make up for lost time due to its reshoots that lasted into the Fall of 2017. Disney is in new territory, having bought up so many different companies and franchises they are now quite literally competing with themselves to an extent.

    Lucasfilm is returning focus to one project at a time per-medium. So right now the only projects in development are Episode IX (live action film), Star Wars: Resistance (animated series), and Jon Favreau’s live-action TV series. It sounds like they will continue to develop a solid structuring among those three departments under the Lucasfilm banner, with Dave Filoni still heading the animation department.

    Disney is done experimenting with new or unusual filmmakers and will go back to proven veteran talent who they know can handle a big budget Star Wars production in an effort to prevent future production chaos, drama, and firings.“
     
  6. That last paragraph is bad news
     
  7. aoftbsten

    Trusted Supporter

    That last paragraph is a huge bummer indeed.
     
  8. SteveLikesMusic

    approx. 3rd coolest Steve on here Supporter

    So basically Disney fucking sucks lol
     
  9. They basically screwed over Solo themselves, then blamed the people they fired.
     
  10. Nathan

    Always do the right thing. Supporter

    disney is such a bad thing.
     
  11. Dodger Jun 20, 2018
    (Last edited: Jun 20, 2018)
    Dodger

    “The greatest teacher, failure is”

    Thats what villains do. Fuck up and then blame others because they arent going to point the finger at themselves.

    Typical complaint but I still dont get why they dont use lower budgets and more focused stories for these spin offs about new things from new artists. You dont fuck with the fanboy's attachment to old characters so theres little drama/haters adulterating the perception. If it fails? no big deal on that front.

    financially, Its Star Wars so youre going to have a high floor on your investment because the hardcore fans will see it. If its a hit and gets positive reviews, it probably will blow up because its Star Wars. Low risk. High reward. And since they are separate stories you can put them out more frequently like Blumhouse or Marvel without fatigue. If Upgrade can make that action heavy/CGI filled movie for 3-5 million, you can experiment with 50-100million dollar budgets.

    Instead of you get a Star War! You get a Star War! for Boba Fett, or Lando, or Han, because money!!!!! It should be Coogler gets a Star War. Duvernay gets a Star War! Garland gets a Star War! Villenueve gets a Star War! (or whoever) Tell them:
    "hey, you get 50mill each. Write scripts about totally new stories with new characters on new worlds /each person gets a direct number to one of the members of the story group to work with personally so you dont fuck with the lore/Canon/the force mythology or whatever. Let's see what you can do."

    Then release them 2 per year or 1 a year on top of the TV series/Johnson/Benioff and Weiss stuff. You get the multiple movie per year model without fatigue because of the excitement for new stories and you can release them whenever in the year because you have your other Star War during Christmas and thats the "money maker."

    Idk. Maybe thats too idealistic or ignorant of all the factors of making a movie. makes sense to me tho
     
  12. Surfwax

    bring on the major leagues Supporter

    I kinda disagree with y’all. Without Disney these movies wouldn’t be happening anyways, and/or Lucas would be putting out bad new Star Wars films himself. The dream of Disney giving a film and money to anyone with an interesting creative vision is a nice one, but I don’t know that it’s all realistic. Marvel gets away with three movies a year because they all do gangbusters - I don’t think think SW can support 2 films a year and risk them being flops on top of that.

    The Solo backlash has been overstated both from a quality and box office front, but by all means this one should have been as safe as it gets from a non main trilogy perspective. Imagine if a riskier film was coming out in 6 months? I think Disney would be shitting themselves, and rightfully so.

    Long story short, I wish it took more than one “flop” for Disney to change course, but at the same time I think the degree to which a real flop would hurt the brand can’t be understated.
     
  13. justin. Jun 20, 2018
    (Last edited: Jun 20, 2018)
    justin.

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    We got 1 great SW film, 1 good spin-off, 1 okay SW film, and one okay spin-off. It’s not that bad but I would take a Duvernay SW film over a Johnson SW film any day of the week.

    It’s funny that Disney said they are going to be more strict with their director choices while they are giving an entire trilogy to the risky director that has arguably turned a number of fans away from the franchise or gave them doubt when Solo was released. Nothing against the guy but I don’t understand that at all.
     
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  14. Nathan

    Always do the right thing. Supporter

    Disney makes some good movies but they are still very quantifiably a bad thing, no matter how much fun Rey and Kylo are.
     
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  15. ship90

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    I think it’s pretty great for Lucasfilm to re-evaluate and press the pause button on these spinoffs (even though I’ve had quite a lot of enjoyment from them, the Solo soundtrack is my latest obsession to come from these films). They aren’t what most are clamoring for and they have had so many issues with their directors for these films. C’mon everyone get hyped for... Solo?? Lol. I still love it but yeah...Some of these ideas seem like they would fit really well as a mini-series on the steaming service or at least an Ant-Man level approach. No lie... I do still want that Kenobi movie. It’s the only spinoff I really want ha!
    I believe Rian isn’t directing those films, he’s only writing them. Want to speculate on what it will be about? I’m thinking early Force users or the split of the Sith from the Jedi, who knows but def more on the mythological and mystical side?
    Btw, I find it really frustrating to read/hear so many opinions about the state of the fandom from straight white guys, when marginalized voices seem to be rarely if ever included. Meh.
     
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  16. It's a shame that most if not all of the directors going forward will be white guys. How many POC or women blockbuster directors are there? A handful, if that? The universe needs new perspective.
     
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  17. aoftbsten

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    Bob Iger apparently loves The Last Jedi and it also seems to be the one the had the least behind the scenes drama. So it's not super surprising to see them sticking with him.
     
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  18. aoftbsten

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    He's directing the first and then the other two will be different directors. I'm hoping one of them is Coogler.

    I'd be down for early force users and seeing how the Jedi/Sith factions began. But, I think I'd be more interested in going into the unknown regions of the galaxy though, away from the Republic/Empire areas that we know.
     
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  19. Yuuzhan Vong??

    I loved those books when I was younger and always thought they could make movies out of them before they scrapped those stories. I think the actors would have been the right ages.
     
  20. aoftbsten

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    I never read the books, but from what I read about the Yuuzhan Vong I think they'd be a good source to draw inspiration from. Rian is great a writing interesting villains with a sense of angst (Kid Blue, Old Joe in Looper, Kylo in TLJ), so I'm pretty confident he'll bring something good to the table.
     
  21. Greg

    The Forgotten Son Supporter

    The problem with adapting the New Jedi Order is that you would need like 15 movies (at the least) to do them justice. There’s no way that would ever happen.

    Obviously they could just draw some inspiration from them and do their own thing with the concept.
     
  22. Deanna

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    Currently reading Last Shot. It's a fun Han/Lando story so far (I'm about halfway through).
     
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  23. bodkins

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    Where does this fall time wise?
     
  24. ship90

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    Lucasfilm sources on Thursday characterized as "inaccurate" a report that future "Star Wars" movies falling outside of the regular trilogy storyline (Episodes I to IX) have been put on hold in the wake of the box office under-performance of "Solo: A Star Wars Story."

    Instead, Lucasfilm told ABC News there are still "multiple" Star Wars films currently in development that have not been officially announced. Those projects are moving forward separate from an already-announced "Star Wars" trilogy being overseen by "The Last Jedi" director Rian Johnson and another series of movies from "Game of Thrones" producers David Benioff and D.B. Weiss.

    :-|
     
  25. Deanna

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    It jumps around, but for the "now" portion, Ben is like 2. And then it jumps back 10-20 years in certain chapters.
     
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