Avengers: Infinity War (Joe & Anthony Russo, April 27, 2018) Movie • Page 80

I would put Thanos as my favorite because he is motivated through nothing but heroic intentions so that life is preserved. All the other villains, while ones like Zemo and Killmonger have understandable motivations, are still fueled by some sort of negative influences like revenge, hatred, and rage. It’s rare to see a “villain” that isn’t motivated by anything negative at all and has horrid goals through pure motivations. The dialogue in the film also gives a feeling that his goal doesn’t some from self-gain. It’s not as if he wanted to kill half of the universe to take pleasure in it and that rebalancing the universe was an excuse. He truly felt like balancing the universe was a “burden” and unavoidable to saving all life. It’s just like getting rid of half of it had to be done in his eyes.

 

Anyone else shocked Thor is 1500 years old?

 

Hype. Someone on my Twitter posted last night that they wanted to see it but have never seen the others and they were wanting recommendations on only the must see films before Infinity War.

 

uhhh Thanos wants to kill half the people in the universe. He doesn't present it as revenge, hatred, or rage, but it's pretty clearly violent and negative. Killmonger wants to free oppressed people around the world.

 

I think he's absolutely fueled by his own rage and spite about what happened to his own planet as well as just having a sort of twisted, sick personality. I definitely wouldn't say it's all heroic intentions even if he does believe he's making the universe a better place.

 

When that support is a breakdown with spoilers of a movie I haven’t seen no I have no interest in reading it.
Furthermore I’m just here posting my thoughts. I don’t really need a dissertation on why people disagree. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

One long ass paragraph that jumped right into spoilers for black panther when I already said I hadn’t seen it.

I mean...I’m right here. You can just ask me instead of subposting about it lol
My reasoning was simple; because it was free (moviepass) and my friend wanted to see it. Also, literally everyone else is seeing it and it’s nice to know what everyone’s talking about.
It really ain’t that serious lol

 

Then why even respond to it in the first place?

 

I’m talking about motivations and intentions which Thanos is free of rage, revenge, or rage. He doesn’t want to kill half the universe, he wants to save life from extinction. He has heroic intentions that are not for any self-gain, pleasure, or “eye for an eye”.

Killmonger, while his motivations are justified, was fueled with revenge and rage. He wanted to kill people all around the world and not just the ones that persecuted his people. He had no intention of saving anyone that wasn’t involved with oppression or even other oppressed people around the world.

 

Thanos isn't as good of a villain as Killmonger but is a great villain in the same way that Killmonger is a great villain (Zemo and Vulture also fit into this mold). They're all people who are the heroes of their own personal stories with understandable, even relatable motivations, who are just going about accomplishing their goals in the exact wrong way (although, the rightness/wrongness of what Killmonger was doing is way more complex than that of the others, and influenced by a ton of other factors especially growing up poor and black in America, hence why he is the best MCU villain to date).

Loki has a sad backstory that makes him more empathetic but his villainy is still just in the pursuit of power. He's a great villain by virtue of getting the most screen time, really. And Ego is mostly a great villain because a great actor is portraying him and because James Gunn wrote him very well. He's still trying to take over the entire universe out of a sense of superiority that he feels over everything and everyone else. Not as relatable as the more humanistic villains (Killmonger, Zemo, Vulture, and, yes, even Thanos).

 

To let them know why I’m not responding? If someone says they haven’t seen a movie and you reply with the ending to that movie you’re kinda a jerk in my book.

 

It's uncommon for people to see a movie without watching any of the lead up movies, so spoilers are open game.

 

He’s definitely a psychopath. The dialogue between him and Gamora and between him and Strange just didn’t lead me to believe that he wanted to do it other than any reasons to save life itself. If there was another way to save life then he would have taken it.

 

Well I disagree. Like someone else said the hype of this movie has people seeing it who normally wouldn’t. Not only that but there are HOW many prequels to this? 10? More? It’s not the same as if there was just one lead up and you’re spoiling it. There was a dozen lead ups and he spoiled the most recent one, the one that’s literally still in theaters lol

Also it’s not like he’s just talking openly and I happened to see it. He directly replied with spoilers after I said I hadn’t seen it. I think that’s a jerk move.

 

I agree with Loki. The weakest by motivation but one of the best though charisma. It’s going to suck not seeing him in future films Unless the flash back/time travel/BARF machine which takes us back to the battle of NY rumor in A4 is true.

 

This is the 19th MCU film. It's crazy to think about that.

 

To me; this was a movie for those that have been there and been involved since the beginning .The Russo's may have said that this is standalone and I can understand the reasoning behind this (also they aren't exactly gonna say otherwise and stop anyone else going) but the attachment I've had to these characters and the universe as a whole made the movie much better for me than it would have been if I hadn't seen anything else.

I understand everyone else's opinions and respect the disagreements about flaws. Maybe the marketing was different elsewhere but here it was always a culmination, a final chapter of a book that's taken 10 years to write and even knowing the ending hasn't wasted the journey of going through it.

As I said; I respect others opinions but the personal journey for the lead up is different for everyone. Respect that this is a little more heartfelt to others, even if it's just a standalone movie to you and listen to what others have to say without just pawning them off .

 

I mean, okay, I’m sorry about that, but you haven’t seen any of the 18 previous MCU films, so I didn’t read you as being particularly interested in pursuing them. It’s also not a huge spoiler. Great stories withstand knowing specific plot points beforehand, and I think I talked about it in relatively vague terms.

 

I personally look at it as a penultimate chapter from the perspective of the heroes. From Thano's perspective, though, it is a complete story and the final chapter of his life's work

 

You clearly don't care about the previous movies, so I still say it's your own fault.

 

Based on how old Odin is, I wasn’t that shocked. I don’t know if only people of Odin’s blood live long or if it’s all Asgardians (anyone who knows want to confirm?).

 

Wow that is nuts.
Like, a ton of people seeing this have not seen all 19. And that’s okay.
To me there’s also a difference between spoiling the first iron man that came out 10 years ago and spoiling a movie that is still in theaters right now

Not sure if this is directed at me (hey have y’all heard of quoting or @ing it’s less passive aggressive!) but idk where I didn’t respect it being heartfelt to others??? And the ONLY thing I pawned by off was a spoiler paragraph about black panther and Star Wars aka NOT this movie. I’ve read every single other post in here and response to me.

 

Hey, you're preaching to the choir on this.

 

To me it’s just like a common courtesy thing but lol I guess it’s just my fault for expecting people to have common courtesy! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

I mean he also used to make Gamora and Nebula fight and then take pieces of the loser so I think he's got a bit of a destructive streak in him and the way he spoke about his home planet it's like he wanted to prove that his idea was right so badly that he doesn't even try and consider a better way.