Panic! at the Disco Band • Page 16

Still not my argument.

 

So you don't want to learn about the history of Panic! and FOB from those that lived through the accusations that the band was ripping the other off?

You asked for that ... and now you're like "how dare you point me in the direction of people that know and lived through what I don't but asked for!"

You not knowing this happened doesn't mean it didn't. You said you wanted evidence. Here's a thread of people that will be able to do this because you don't wanna use Google.

 

lol it literally happened yesterday on this very website

 

Yeah, I didn't think that was a controversial opinion to have haha. V&V has similarities to Folie. TWTL has songs similar to SRAR. DOAB has songs that could fit on AB/AP.

 

Honestly, Fever and PO. have the fewest similarities to the contemporary FOB release of the time.

 

I don't miss 2005.

 

"Its basiclly is Fall out boy but with the Techno."

 

This was the overwhelming belief around that release. People hated the electronics.

I'm glad we only sorta have to have those debates over instrumentation these days.

 

Where did I say anything like "How dare you!?" Also, people who "lived through it." You're so overdramatic it's laughable. You initiated a conversation by debating my opinion on a different band and didn't even once debate what my opinion was on that band. When I questioned you on when people said what I was saying in regards to that band about PATD, you simply made condescending remarks and then tried tossing me to your users to get berated because you "don't feel like talking about them today." Seriously?

And my initial take on what you said, regardless of backed up opinions from ten plus years ago, still stands. If anyone believes that P!ATD sounded like FOB during that time frame then they clearly weren't listening close enough. They sounded nothing alike, just simply catered to the same fan base. A Fever was inventive, creative, diverse, and carried some great vocal work lyrically. FOB was doing pop punk. Saying that Pale Waves is carved straight out of The 1975's ass is not the same thing.

 

Yes, seriously. Because you not believing me is a waste of my time. It happened. I truly don't care if you believe it or not, but I figured: here's some people that may care more than me to tell you it did happen.

Of course they sounded alike! That was half of the entire point of Pete signing them and writing with them.

 

And yes, there's definitely a connection between what happened with Panic/FOB and what's happening with Pale Waves/The 1975. Matty signed and produced and writes with Pale Waves, a band that sounds a lot like his band. Pete and Patrick did the same with Panic. It's good business. Pete realized where the tide was going when his band was getting popular and signed bands that he could help get popular and be in the fold, his quote at the time something along the lines of "it makes sense if there's gonna be bands influenced by what we do and sound like us that we take them under our wing and tour and label" ... this is similar to what Matty is doing with Pale Waves and their label right now. It's also good business.

If you wanna argue that the internet didn't say the same things you're saying now about Pale Waves and The 1975 about Panic at the Disco and Fall Out Boy ... you're just flat out fucking wrong. They're still saying it today.

 

Pete literally has writing credit on a handful of songs all the way up to Vices & Virtues.

 

And should have more on A Fever but isn't officially credited. So many of those lyrics are Petes. (And so much of the music is Matt Squire, the band could barely tune their guitars in that session.)

 

Yeah, just go back through his blog and you'll find plenty of lyrics they ended up using.

 

I never personally thought they sounded too alike, aside from some similarities between Brendon and Patrick's voice and the overall feel of the lyrics, but to deny that people were saying they sounded similar at the time is pretty ahistorical.

 

They did that whole album in like three weeks, it's pretty crazy how it all turned out. Will never not laugh at the "wet dream for a webzine" line ... which I'm told was written directly about AP.net.

 

i legit did not know this, thats wild. do you know any specifics? like, id imagine Camisado and Nails For Breakfast are mostly Ryan just because its such a personal thing but maybe im wrong.

and yeah this is a weird hill to die on, Pale Waves sound like The 1975 because Matty helps write for them, signed them, and they clearly look up to his band. same thing with Pete signing Panic.

 

Decaydance was a lie people wake up it never happened

 

I'd have to go do a bunch of research to go find all of them. There's some where there's lines here or there Pete gave them, or tweaked, and some full on songs. It's always been just hinted at in interviews though. That Oral History in Billboard talks about it some on the record:

Fall Out Boy was really hoping for another successful artist to launch. There were timelines and demands. We had to make the record in three and a half weeks -- mixed, mastered, done. They came to me with, like, five songs. The rest were written in the studio, in pre-production.

I put them in a studio and told them to set up as a band, and went in the control room to make a phone call to their day-to-day manager Scott. They were trying to set up, and they didn’t know how to use their guitar tuner, their live tuner. They’re all standing around trying to figure it out… I interrupted Scott: “Have these guys ever played a show?” He’s like, “No. Why?” “Never mind!”

Urie:

Pete is such a smart lyricist, so he was always there to help out with a line here, a line there. We’d ask his opinion and he would tell us. That really helped a lot.

Trying to find all the old blogs and stuff from 13 years ago is hard. Google just wants to show me the latest Panic song. Heh.

 

Yeah, if you strip away the electronics and orchestration on most fever songs you are left with something not to far off from the FUTCT. Which I wouldn't really categorize as "just pop punk".

 

nah its all good i believe you and i can imagine some of that shit is just lost to the void, thats just something i never knew or thought about. 2005 was a wild ass year

 

Hah, Pete's old LiveJournal I believe ... if you go back far enough ... will have some stuff.

 

Didn’t deny it, asked for examples of how and when, and then stated I think it’s flat out wrong to think they sounded alike at all during that time period specifically, as I was discussing Pale Waves current sound and place in their careers. The copycat sound is glaringly obvious between the two. Saying two vocalists sounded similar is not the same to me.

 

why are u doing this

 

lol this is funny