2019 MLB Season Thread [ARCHIVED] Baseball • Page 289

i watch baseball in hopes they'll show the GM sitting in their executive suite

 

Dave Dombrowski Daddy

 

And of course he's a pirates fan

Ratio'd

 

Arrieta to Phillies - 3 years per Heyman

 

So I go back to it. What do you think the collusion entailed? Was there a certain amount of dollars they were allowed to spend certain players to avoid?

 

25m per season for Arrieta

I guess that’s below the agreed salary among owners

 

I don't know? How am I supposed to know that. I guess you can look at how they did it in the 80s:

So - maybe they're sharing offers? Maybe they've agreed that players who rank higher by traditional stats but lower by more advanced stats (Moose's low OBP but high HR, Lynn's low ERA but high FIP) wouldn't get the kind of contracts they expected.

Maybe, as the article those quotes are from and this one suggests, it wasn't behind closed doors, but just the result of the MLBPA getting its ass kicked repeatedly in consecutive CBA negotiations, creating the environment where owners have pushed for a penalty on their own spending as an excuse to spend less money, as they're clearly doing. The owners, after all, are more organized and better at negotiating with labor than ever, led by their commissioner who happens to be the protege of Bud Selig who himself participated in collusion. It doesn't really matter to me if they've colluded by agreeing to violate the CBA or if they've colluded by bending the CBA to their whims, either way players are getting screwed for their benefit

 

wow yeah the tanking phillies upping their payroll to $75m is great evidence the owners aren't agreeing to spend less money

 

the dude who wrote the BP Wrigleyville piece is a great twitter follow and leftist in Boston, you should find him irl and be baseball bros together

 

we just got in all the baseball team peanuts the other day and we finally made the display.

Every team in California had a decent size section while the Padres has like 2 rows dedicated to them.

I laughed at that.

 

Players are getting paid less. Teams don't want to give the kind of contracts they usually do. The problem is the free agency rules. Players are under team control during their peak years, and go for the big payout afterward. But, players being paid less than their value benefits the team. They way underpay for talent that has no leverage. The David Price type contracts are necessary because that antiquated system exists. Otherwise players never make close to what they've actually worth on the market over the course of their career. The solution is to reduce team control years for a start, but the owners will never do that voluntarily because the current system benefits them, even moreso if they never have to give out the David Prices. This is the root of all evil in the MLB imo and the only people preventing change are the people whose side you guys are taking and the ass leadership of the MLBPA who can't stand up to them

 

As a Rays fan, I can’t get behind the idea of reducing the number of years of team control because I would basically have to resolve to never seeing a competitive team on my outdated field. However, I am far from taking the side of ownership in cases like we’ve seen this offseason. Now I will go back to observing this from afar...

 

I forgot to mention early I am in the camp that there is some kind of collusion this offseason.

 

re: arrieta

it was impossible to see how the offseason would play out ahead of time but I'd much rather have Arrieta on 3/75 than Chatwood on 3/38

 

Who benefits from the Mike Moustakas deal?

 

Mollusk with neckties is my new band

Also

Strawman blah blah blah arggghhh

The free market

Fartttt

 

(takes drag off 3 cigarettes)

 

Didn't think it was all that ripe of wokeness, I searched the comments and all I know is collusion is a lie and 7 million is a lot of money.. oh, and moustakas should have bought the Marlins

Post your favorite

 

@Wharf Rat i edited it

You're definitely that cargo cultist guy

Or the guy who says Atlantis will rise again

 

I will not be forced to read those comments, sorry

 

They're actually fairly tame and I'm kind of upset about it, I was hoping for something funnier

 

I guess Yankees infield is set with Neil Walker. They must not trust any of their own infielders yet. Not that Drury and Walker at the bottom of the lineup is bad. I could see one of them having a Scott Brosius type year.

 

If the game were in Boston I definitely would

But I don't think anyone at The Ballpark In Arlington (still refuse to call it Globe Life) would get it

Will probably get a Benintendi shirt in solidarity since Laura would do the same for me

 

I get it.

Also same I refuse to call it Globe Life Park.