Pianos Become The Teeth - Wait For Love (February 16, 2018) Album • Page 76

Yeah when bands undergo a drastic change in sound it shouldn't be surprising when not everyone is a fan of the change

 

That's all well and good, but if their two paragraph review makes objective statements like "He only sings in one octave" and the first song alone has him singing in 3 octaves I think it's fair to call it a bad review. If reviews themselves are a form of art then I think it's fair that they are up for critique.

I disagree that there is no objectivity in music. Music for the most part follows a set logic. These language and patterns differ from culture to culture to genre to genre. But my limited knowledge of music theory makes me feel like there is something that separates good music from bad music. Or at least music that was made well and music that wasn't made well. Artist intent can effect how much that matters to a degree. I think we get a bit hyperbolic when talking about art we subjectively dislike and consider it objectively bad. Because actual objective analysis of a peice of art can take a long time and I would say most people, including myself, aren't really as well versed in the science of music as we would need to be to talk about it in objective terms. So I guess I think it's both.

 

could listen to Fake Lighting forever.

 

As someone with a masters degree in music. There really isn’t any music theory that states something is good or bad. 12 tone Music was once considered the best/most progressive form of music and jazz changes Keys every two bars and that’s not counting atonal jazz, which is something people study for years. There are pleasant/consonant sounds and there are non pleasant/dissonant sounds and music is just organizing those sounds in a way that creates something meaningful. But there is no good or bad way to organize those sounds

 

oh definitely, i don't necessarily think that vocals out of key are bad if used in the right way

 

The whole well tempered Music system is effed anyway.

 

I think there is something to be said for the role intersubjectivity, reliability, and measurable, predictable response to different audiotorial stimuli. I guess it's all about where you put your personal threshold for objectivity.

 

Amazon sucks, I ordered this three weeks ago and the delivery date is still pending. Wish I had any local shops around

 

Translation please lol

 

Forevor Sound is an early song of the year candidate yeeesh

 

Basically a measurement for what sounds good and how people react to certain sounds.

 

Well intersubjectivity would be multiple people having a similar subjective experience to yours when listening to a song. Reliability would be that intersubjectivity documented over time or in different cultural situations. For example, Beethovens work has been reliably considered good for centuries at this point. Predictable response is how our brains respond to specific sounds, and in turn specific combinations of notes.

Some argue that objectivity is a function of intersubjectivity, reliability, and measurability. A lot of people liken it to a spectrum.

 

Aaaaaaaannnnnnyway, this album makes me feel like dancing. Badly.

 

Kings Road is taking their sweet time too.

What I've learned is to not preorder stuff I want right away. I almost always seem to get "punished" for it with late shipping.

 

So question(s)

I only started with Keep You so I don't know like any of the background with Kyle and his father. Was it a bad relationship? How did he pass? When did it happen? I'm curious to know the context because it would give me so much more clarity when it comes to the lyrics. Are there any interviews/articles out there that cover this stuff?

 

I don’t think this is true? Could be wrong but I heard Kyle had a lot of pshycological stuff happening and was away getting treatment for awhile

They had a new record done and song came out on RFC last year before the album was supposed to be announced

 

A lot of great stuff on genius.

He passed from ms. I believe the relationship was really good but Kyle was away touring a lot when he got sick. It happened but I believe around the time of recording the first full length but I may be wrong

 

I thought Kyle put out a video announcement - could be misremembering tho and I’ll try to look for the video

 

@JaytotheGee this was the video I mentioned; I could’ve just misunderstood

 

Huh! No clue then haha

 

I don't care when people have a different opinion than me, but honestly that review on Sputnikmusic is terrible for various reasons. Saying the songs all sound the same is wrong, or that he only sings in one octave is wrong. He wrote 2 crappy paragraphs and most of it is him trashing the new direction, cool dude you don't like the new direction, if you have nothing of value to add to your review and you can only dedicate 2 paragraphs to an album, why even write one? Just to tell everyone that you don't like the new direction they're going in?

His whole review could have been posted on twitter "The new direction sucks, I don't like it. Drummer is the only good part." and nothing would have been lost from that "review". He gave around the same score to "Keep You", but he actually put effort into that review, you can actually see where he's coming from, but this one is just a joke.

 

Most reviews are dumb and it's surprising to me that people in this thread care so much about some random's opinion on this album

 

I've read like under 10 reviews on Sputnik in my life and they were all written horribly so I never read their reviews. From what I've read I gather the average age of a writer there is 17, and if that's not actually the case they sure write like it

 

there is a difference between sputnik reviews. most of the reviews there are user submitted, basically AP user reviews. the actual staff writers/contributors are generally very good writers

 

This one was a staff review