Bad opinions • Page 34

what he said was definitely v racist but hey apparently it already was discussed, i wouldnt know because it takes 5 minutes for a page on this website to load for me unless im not logged in

 

I guess my unpopular music opinion is that that was a racist post

 

My new thing is to just laugh at things.

So this thread is really the funny opinions thread to me.

 

Just because it's an "unpopular opinions thread" does not mean we can't discuss that particular opinion. @Nathan just wrote a lengthy post about this and hit the nail on the head and you just blatantly ignored it with your post.

 

I didn't ignore it at all, his post is what I was addressing. He attacked Brandon for not respecting and appreciating the artistry, I was merely pointing out that respecting an artist/genre/whatever is different than having a personal opinion about them. Nice try, but I think you had no idea what my post was saying.

 

its hilarious imo

 

Not to mention, that post calls him out for not being willing to engage further, when in fact he did.

 

Glad you're enjoying.

 

I don't think I attacked him in any way, and also made sure to address that the issue I took with what he said was something I've been guilty of before as well.

 

Poor choice of words on my part then, but it was still a point I don't think is necessarily relevant in this context

 

Please don't start down this road. Hip hop, as a culture, is a black culture inherently tied to race. I'm not saying anything about racism, but don't deny the inherent factors that make hip hop what it is. And your country comment borders on a weird "reverse racism" comment that doesn't need to happen either

 

I don't agree with everything in your post, but this is a very good point.

I'm just still having trouble with people calling Brandon's original post racist. If he had said hip hop is devoid of value or substance, then that would apply, but using that criticism against what he actually posted is a major stretch. I agree that it comes off poorly, but we already had that conversation, and now people are taking it to a whole new, completely uncalled for level.

 

NOM NOM NOM

SUSTINENCE.

 

God polka kicks fuckin' ass.

 

To take this in a different direction, I was a bit surprised to see people dismissing the idea of comparable music tastes being an important part of a relationship. I wouldn't say it's important in every relationship. My college roommates and I had nothing in common in terms of music taste and we got along just fine. But having that common ground can be a hugely vital part of other relationships too.

Like, my brother and I are nearly five and a half years apart in age and didn't have much in common/didn't get along that well growing up, but once we figured out that we liked the same music, we became so much closer. That was a really cool thing for me, and it showed how powerful music can be. I've bonded with my step dad a lot lately over music because we've both been exploring country more and getting into that. And I don't think my wife and I would be anywhere near as good together if we didn't like similar artists. Idk, when music is something you're extremely passionate about, it makes perfect sense that it could play a big part in growing and defining your relationships.

On the other end of the spectrum, I got super into music before all my friends did and that was kind of isolating. It's cool to have your own little world of music where you feel like you're in on the world's best-kept secrets, but it's also really fun to share that with someone else.

 

Much of my interests including music is something I enjoy in my private time, mostly due to the fact I don't share these interests with most people in my life. So when I think of a partner I imagine someone I would share my private time with. So that makes my taste in music or at least an understanding of my fandom important when it comes to a prospective relationship.

 

I've had more similarities in musical taste in previous relationships than I do now. It's definitely a fun thing to share, but it's not a deal breaker or anything for me if I don't have that. In fact, I share little musical taste with almost anyone I know IRL-- while I sometimes wish that were different, that's part of why I appreciate the community here so much!

 

I mean it's definitely suspect for me when people write off hip hop as a whole given how deeply rooted in race it is. I try to look at how I got into hip hop when I was in high school and I know for me, I enjoyed some of the smoother, jazzier kind of stuff (Common, Blue Scholars, etc). Eventually I got a taste for it and opened beyond the "I only listen to REAL hip hop" phase, beginning to listen to mainstream artists.

When he says he hates the "sounds" I sort of get it. It used to be case that I had to be in the mood to listen to the more abrasive-sounding and bombastic production; had to be in a certain mood to listen to trap and the like. Now, I love it. Some people latch onto it immediately, and that's cool too. I think for some people, a deeper understanding of the culture (paired with acquiring taste) is helpful.

EDIT: I was making a draft of this post for like 10 mins, my post looks out of place now. Carry on.

 

Multiple people already had responded though, and usually, whoever is saying something along the lines of "I know this is the unpopular opinions thread but that doesn't mean things can't be challenged" generally follows up with something confrontational or otherwise intimidating to the poster you're addressing and it doesn't have to be. I'm not saying you did but I can also understand why it could be taken that way, given the context of the situation and how it played out beforehand. It's exacerbated when quite a few people already have spoken about this (and they had). He was already willing to open up but the conversation got backtracked again, which led to him wanting to leave.

Right but how far should we go with that? That's the problem. People shouldn't be made to feel uncomfortable or worried to post in here either. Sometimes people don't want to be replied to, and when it's come to what this is, it doesn't help "fix"the situation. We argue because we want a conclusion, which is usually to come to an agreement or understanding. But the manner in which it's often conducted is counterproductive to its purpose. And miscommunication/misunderstanding happens often online because people type without thinking more than they speak without thinking, and to worsen things there's no tone to said words either. In this case, Brandon not only corrected some of his wording, but was willing to try and open up to the genre, but that went ignored as well.

And sometimes, no matter how hard someone tries, they can't get into something. For example, I've tried horror, but most things make me easily scared/give me nightmares. And with my anxiety, it's just not for me. And when it comes to "country and rap", the two genres that are used when someone says "I like everything but ____" I personally rarely enjoy either of those two, but at the same time I haven't written them off completely. There are a couple of artists in each that I'd gladly follow, but neither of those are genres I actively listen to like with pop and EDM. Speaking of which, the last time EDM was spoken about on here was with ignorance and stereotyping in the general chat thread, and whenever I mentioned trance on AP I was met with laughter and dismissal. So people easily become hypocritical in these discussions as well.

I felt anxious just typing this post but I think it's important to have this conversation to keep the thread civil and everyone on the same page.

 

This is so true for better and for worse. My brother and I are close (and always will be) but our differing interests in music is actually a big divide that I've tried hard to bridge without much success. It hasn't caused much of a rift, but music is such a big part of my life that it is a big enough disconnect to be frustrating. It's funny how excited I get when we're both equally ecstatic about a band.

On the positive end of the spectrum, my best friend and I became close after I found out he has identical (and I mean IDENTICAL) music tastes. We're writing music together now and I don't see that ever stopping. The last few months we've become close has been some of the most exciting in my life.

So yeah. I concur with everything you said. Music is scary powerful.

 

@FTank the post was racist. you having a problem about it being called such isnt our problem. its yours. im sick of fucking beating around the bush and trying not the hurt the feelings of people who are clearly prejudiced based on race. its fucking 2016 this shit isnt hard to understand. im not concerned with the feelings of people who think these things are acceptable. unpopular opinions thread or not that shit isnt acceptable. its overtly racist.

 

Know the feeling hahaha I wish there were more Meg Myers fans on here. Feel like I'm talking to myself 95% of the time lol

 

To me music is an extremely important part of relationships and friendships. I can't imagine being with someone who has a completely different taste then me and I absolutely judge people based on the music they listen to.

 

Only a select group of my friends like the same music I do, my girlfriend and I have some overlapping taste which is real cool, but in general I wish more of my buddies listened to stuff I like

 

Fucking hell, move on dude. No one here is racist.