Brand New - Science Fiction (August 17, 2017) [ARCHIVED] Album • Page 1609

Yep. The rush to condemn or forgive within minutes of posting is very 2017, and I think the wrong angle to look at this from.

 

I hate that I use it but everyone uses it. Not good.

 

Not sure if anyone saw, but there is another accusation leveled at jesse.
https://m.imgur.com/a/B9ri9

 

same here just used it for fam (welp, addressed that dont need it for that anymore) and relationships soon as i can end that tie i will lol.

 

Fuck.

 

Me and my ex were about 1.5 years apart...when I was 19, she was 17. She took a trip to Honduras to do volunteer work and had sex with a 23 year old while she was there. And it was obvious how much he led her on and took advantage of her...she came back talking about how she fell in love and he loves her too and blah blah blah...and then two weeks later it became apparent to her that he wasn’t going to be doing the long distance thing with a 17 year old that he took advantage of for some sex.

I know 23-17 isn’t really seen as ‘that bad’ but at the time I thought it was way fucked up (beyond my own personal hurt feelings) and when I was 23 I couldn’t have really imagined booking up with a 17 year old.

 

My thoughts are very scattered, and I'm conflicted about a lot. The statement was genuine. He owned responsibility and didn't ask for forgiveness. Getting help is a good step forward, and knowing that it's horrific behaviour is mature. But, being a sex addict doesn't excuse preying on a minor. I understand why he didn't include that in his statement but it's important.

I don't know where I'm at. I do believe most people are capable of change, and this was so long ago, and he does seem remorseful and wants to improve himself. But the fact is that his victim has been traumatised all these years and I suspect he never reached out to her to make things up to her? Idk. Look, if my abuser suddenly apologised to me and showed me he'd changed, I don't know how I'd react. I want nothing to do with him and it's 5 years later so I doubt he'll ever apologise. I'm glad Jesse said something. I'm glad it was so personal and honest.

I don't know where I stand with Brand New. With any other band, I would've cut them off already. However, I don't know if I'd even be alive without Brand New, and can't make any promises about listening to them. They won't get any more money from me, though. The music feels tainted and I feel... dirty for supporting someone who hurt someone like this... And yet I have a personal connection with the music and have listened so many times to help myself heal.

 

Holy shit. That new accusation is fucking horrible.

 

Yikes

 

With the newest accusation this honestly is on the same level as FPS. Everyone is entitled to their own reaction to everything that has come out, just keep in mind how you'd feel if this was an artist you didn't like compared to one you once revered.

 

A statement I’ve seen from quite a few people is how they don’t think they’d be alive without Brand New’s music. I just wanna say I hear you. I get it. Been there. But I think you’d be here. You’re strong. Music can save. (And mend broken hearts. Heh. Why did I do that?) But you’ve got that in you too. It’s not just one band. One moment. One album or song. It’s the fight onward every day and finding that sound wherever it may play.

 

Yikes.

Of course it’s expected that Nicole was not an isolated incident, but this hurts. 14...

 

Thank you so much for this. This really really means a lot to me.

 

and we have no shame in our foyd tattoos and we never will. and no we did not get them together just both happened to have them when we met

 

As this unfolded this weekend I tried to visit every platform where it was being discussed to try to expose myself to all kinds of perspectives because this has been so confusing to me but I couldn’t do the reddit or Facebook thing for more than a few minutes. I honestly can’t understand how many people are being so disgustingly ignorant. Like, growing up websites would bash other websites that do similar things and it didn’t make much sense to me because they’re all bonding over the same thing, but the divide between a place like this and reddit is so clear on this issue and I really hope more of the people over there decide to listen to different perspectives more than they seem to be right now

 

This is terrifying

 

I don't think I'm alone when I say it can be very necessary and healthy to sometimes take a step back and get offline in order to spend some time processing your feelings or even distracting yourself for a few hours. We are conditioned to want to be the first to know anything, but no one is obligated to make themselves feel even more miserable over this. Take care of yourselves this weekend.

 

Fucking hell

 

i will say i used to think attributing music to saving your life wasnt true. but i will say. thank fucking god i had the 1975 on in the car when i was trying to intentionally overdose and stopped halfway through. there were a million other factors at play (a text from my now girlfriend also helped) but if i hadnt been listening to them at that moment...who knows. i often say they saved my life but, a lot of things saved my life, so it wasnt just them. family, girlfriend, friends, and my own damn self. but fuck if music isnt one of those things too.

 

Right, I know that. The fact that it was so clearly about anxiety and depression and self-loathing was why it meant so much to me. My point is that those same lines now don't sound like that theme, they sound exactly like all of this. Lines about being an actor getting caught or being ashamed of your past are so specifically similar to what we're dealing with that the thought of hearing them makes my skin crawl. If anyone reads TV Tropes it's like the "Funny Aneurysm Moment" from Buffy, not just harsher in hindsight but completely changing the context of something that used to be innocuous.

 

yeah see. its not necessarily the music that saved their life. but its the music that gave them the strength they needed. thats why they call music powerful. because it makes you powerful.

 

My god.....

 

Thank you so much. It's incredibly tough right now because Brand New gave me the courage and the push to see a counsellor. I related to too many songs too much and knew I urgently needed help

 

Like I said in my prior post... at the end of the day, music can be the motivation or understanding... but we make our own bones by surviving. Find the strength in knowing you did it with or without help, music is beautiful, but music is music... living and getting by is still a very solitary fight. Sometimes strength is a mask we need to wear, music sets that tone well.... ultimately we're still the ones under the mask fighting till we dont need to wear it anymore.

 

Ugh I found myself in an argument on Facebook with a lady who was blaming the victim. I eventually got curious and clicked on her profile and noticed she has young daughters... those poor girls.