Brand New - Science Fiction (August 17, 2017) [ARCHIVED] Album • Page 1576

Collin too? Nooooooo

 

Yeah, Chet has some bad stuff. He likes to use the N word. Had/has a “rap” career.

 

Heh no one knows about the other Hanks kid apparently.

 

holy shit I forgot that Colin isn't the only one, PHEW. OK yes I remember that Chet shit, I truly must have blocked it out of my memory, wow

 

I think Colin is good. He’s basically a clone if we ever lose Tom. And Life In Pieces is very funny.

 

I've been listening to "Even" off Julien Baker's new album a lot over the last six hours. Feels like it applies to the world.

 

She was my go to last night when I felt so anxious and sad about the whole thing.

 

to be fair on tom hanks wikipedia page under children it says “4 sons including collin hanks” lol

 

I firstly want to say to the people who say Brand New saved their lives that I hope you are ok and don't see this news as a reason to revert back into that mindset and if it does please reach out to someone.

I only learned about this an hour ago and it's just so disappointing. I've long reconciled that while Brand New was my favorite band that Jesse was more or less known to be an asshole in several facets of his life. I never would have thought he was the type to solicit minors which is just one of the worst things you can do. I really hope she and any other victims have managed to get help or at least get on ok with their lives.

i don't really know what to expect from the band or Jesse now. I feel like his lyrics and statements he's made imply that he knows he's messed up many times along the way, I just never thought he would have done something this disgusting. All these recent happenings have made me think of things I've done in the past. Granted I never did anything like this but I have questioned statements I made or certain actions I took that I feel guilty about 15 years after they took place. I wonder sometimes if something I said or things I did in 8th grade screwed people up or if they don't give it a second thought. I could see where Jesse has expressed that type of thing in his lyrics and maybe he's changed and isn't a predator anymore and maybe I'm not the same asshole I was in 8th grade but I just don't know how to view their music now, like can I in good conscience hit play on Science Fiction the next time I'm in my car? It's late and I'm rambling but I mean just.........fuck

 

I don't have anything to add that hasn't already been said, but I do just want to say that I applaud the victim for her courage in speaking out, and I hope this is a significant step towards her healing. Her courage in coming forward with this can't be overstated.

Also, it's heartening to see the majority of people on this forum responding to this with honesty and integrity. For many this will mean an overhaul of cherished memories and emotions. Be kind to yourselves as you process this, know that blame is not on your hands for your support of the band up to this point, and it's going to take time to absorb this and know how to move forward.

I'm relatively new here and don't know many of you well, but if anyone wants to vent I'll be an ear to listen, drop me a message.

 

I have a bunch of 17-18 year old people who follow me on Twitter messaging me and they're so lost and feel guilty for enjoying the band. All I can say to them is that the blame does not rest with them at all, and that it's okay to be overwhelmed and unsure right now. It takes time to deal with something like this. I don't know how else I can comfort them, it's been a terrible day for me too, I just hope fans who have never encountered something like this in music are okay and dont ever lose their love for music

 

I'm just so fucking sad

I've already said I'm behind the victim 100% but it's like a rock and a hard place.
I know what it's like to come out and say you've been abused by someone who everyone thought was a "great guy" it's fucking awful so I really feel for the victim I really really do.

But then on the other hand this band changed so much of life in ways I can't even begin to explain so it's like if these allegations are true what do you do? You can't change the past and how they made you feel and got you through whatever it was you were going through.

I just want to be able to say I'm devastated without people jumping down my throat claiming "it's not about me and my record collection" but honestly what do you do.

I feel like I'm just waiting for other artist that I love to come into the light of being an abuser

What happened to the world, what happened to the safe place of music

 

I hope other women feel comfortable enough come forward with their experiences from within the scene. Just reading comments here and there about Warped Tour, for example, I really want these kind of people outed for their predatory behavior. At the same time, reading the BN subreddit right now, you can easily see why many never do come forward. I'm glad Chorus has been so thoughtful.

 

To be fair, no one said Jesse was a “great guy”, people mostly just chose to ignore his disgressions.

 

Going off of this, didn't Hilary Duff date Joel Madden when she was like 16? It's all so gross.

 

Sighhh I feel like you understood what I meant when I say"great guy" and I shouldn't need to explain myself I will anyway because I don't want the point to be misconstrued. Jesse is admired by so many in so many different ways, that (sheepishly) including myself don't really want to believe that he can do no wrong. But hey everyone has the ablity to be fucking terrible including him and it fucking sucks, it all fucking sucks

 

I met him with his daughter & wife at a restaurant a couple months ago. Had a pretty long chat with him and I left genuinely thinking he was a great guy. Came across as a family man, super friendly, sparking conversation. NEVER would have expected this. We all have old demons... but soliciting a minor? There's not really anything to say about that.

He may very well be a genuine, nice guy who has learned at this point in his life.. but at 25 he definitely knew better. It really sucks to look back on. I had even more respect for BN after meeting him that day and seeing what great character he has. Welp....

 

Martha have pulled out of supporting BN next week. I think the shows are dead in the water.

 

Or The Movielife

 

Not sure about the upcoming shows overseas but I honestly think that they’ve played their last US show

 

I feel like it's not long before tours are cancelled

 

I still hope that they won't be silent about this

 

At this point, I don’t see how they could be silent on this.

I’d expect we hear something about this today (or tomorrow, for you!) and I think Kevin will remove himself from the band in the next day or two.

 

Tbh I don’t think there will be a band left to remove himself from.

 

I hope so too but at the same time I'm doubtful

I feel like tours will be cancelled and no statement will be made and that's the end. In no way do I want that to happen at all but I don't think anything will be said which breaks my heart