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Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Melody Bot, Mar 13, 2015.

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  1. Whatjuliansaid

    News on once the clouds are gone. Prestigious

    Exactly.
     
  2. Victor Eremita

    Not here. Isn't happening. Supporter

    Impeachment is a majority of the house voting bring formal allegations of something unlawful. If those allegations pass the President has technically been impeached, and then the Senate tries the President, with the SC Chief Justice presiding over the "trial", and conviction being a 2/3 majority.

    Edit: I swear I quoted someone, I don't know how this works anymore.
     
  3. lauren14

    Regular

    Yes it was but that is where we were. And to be fair it wasn't just the blue dogs...

    I think as long as the chamber remains the conflicted self interested group it is, we will see employer based insurance.
     
  4. Dominick

    Prestigious Prestigious

    I understand where we were. But, where we were was the result of choices willingly made by democrats long ago, so they don't get to abdicate responsibility when the laws they crafted are incapable of resolving problems that derive from the very premises they've accepted, eg, healthcare as a commodity.
     
  5. Victor Eremita

    Not here. Isn't happening. Supporter

    Public support for single payer is there, so to act as if it wasn't achievable is pretty sad and, in my opinion, inexcusable.
     
  6. lauren14

    Regular

    In 2009 it wasn't achievable. And public support doesn't equal Congressional support. That would require districts to actually represent people, not politicians.
     
  7. Victor Eremita

    Not here. Isn't happening. Supporter

    This pretty sums up why democrats are completely useless to the left.
     
  8. Trotsky

    Trusted

    I believe it. Sanders won 79 of the 102 counties in IL and lost.
     
  9. Whatjuliansaid

    News on once the clouds are gone. Prestigious

    Apparently Scott stringer is a biggg Hillary guy, the fix was in from the start.
     
  10. lauren14

    Regular

    I'd say why Congress is useless to people. Not just a problem of the left anymore.
     
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  11. MysteryKnight

    Prestigious Prestigious

    Yeah, he also won a majority of the counties in MA but lost. He won almost all the counties in Michigan but only won by a very small margin. He just can't win the big counties where a large amount of the population is. He won every county in Wisconsin except the one where Milwaukee is.
     
  12. bruh

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  13. lauren14

    Regular

    Man my credit card keeps getting hacked/stolen. I am tempted to go back to a cash system. I have a friend who went on a data tangent and now I'm freaked out by how much of my personal info is out floating in the ether.
     
  14. bruh

    Regular

    I can't remember the last time I used cash. Knock on wood, but I haven't been hacked either.

    The thing I like about credit cards is earning cash back points and the fraud protection. I should probably carry some cash on me though since there's always something that comes up where I'm having to have a friend pay and I Venmo them money.
     
  15. lauren14

    Regular

    Not to completely derail, but I am a points hoader. I have a problem. Seriously. But now they are devaluing them so much that it's beginning to not be worth it anymore.
     
  16. David87

    Prestigious Prestigious

    I try to use cash at small businesses when I can, so they don't have to pay any credit card fees...even though I'm sure they price that into the products anyway
     
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  17. ForestOfAllusion

    Old Aesthetic Prestigious

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    Sat back in the nosebleeds, but got in to a completely packed audience yesterday in Reading, PA to see the man with a plan.
     
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  18. muttley

    "Fuck you, Peaches!" Prestigious

    It's old, and I assume everyone has already seen it, but it's still funny.

     
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  19. MysteryKnight

    Prestigious Prestigious

    Latest poll has Bernie down only 2 points in California. He is also down only 4 points in Indiana. Of course this all doesn't really matter since Hillary basically has the nomination locked up, unless Bernie can do really well this Tuesday which I do not expect, but you never know.
     
  20. Malatesta

    i may get better but we won't ever get well Prestigious

    watching that video makes me feel like he's using the word like slang for vagina
     
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  21. T.K.

    Prestigious Browser Prestigious

    I just feel like I need to rant and I'm not sure exactly where I should post it but here goes: It's absolutely absurd the drug problem we have in this country, specifically over-prescribing and lack of accountability. Oklahoma is awful in both of these aspects and the opioid crisis is alive and thriving.

    It's inexcusable that physicians, pharmacists, and drug manufacturers aren't held to higher levels of accountability. It's incredulous that each state in the US does not have a PMP (prescription monitoring program) set up and that there's little to no requirements for the PMP to be checked in states that do. It's absolutely unacceptable that it's acceptable for patient's to be on medication duplications, cocktails, and inappropriate treatments (e.g. use of benzos as 1st line for treating anxiety/long term).

    It's just so frustrating to deal with this on a daily basis and for the medical community in the US to essentially bat an eye at it.
     
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  22. David87

    Prestigious Prestigious

    Bernie and Hillary are both in Wilmington today. I may try and get down to Bernie's rally. How long do rallies usually last?
     
  23. undonesweater

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    I'd say they usually clock in start-finish at 2-2.5 hours.
     
  24. Richter915

    Trusted Prestigious

    As a physician (ok in 1 month geez), I obviously want to pass the buck. The system is setup to be manipulated, especially if there isn't a good PMP system in place. A lot of the blame on physicians ignores the litigious nature of healthcare, especially practicing in NY. The vast number of patients do not need "vitamin D" as we call it but they get it...we have 10 other patients to handle in the ED with serious illness and ultimately to "waste" time on a drug-seeker is beyond our expertise. Very few hospitals have the staff to help manage and treat drug-seekers...it's more cost-effective for the hospital to give them the narcotics, bill them, and let them come back 2 weeks later when they need their next fix.

    One argument I've heard is that we get patients hooked. It's our fault. And it probably is. If we weren't so scared of being sued and negatively assessed by outpatient ratings, we wouldn't do it. When patients leave the hospital they get a survey regarding their care, one of the categories is pain management. Americans expect to be in zero pain at all times, no matter what. If they have any pain, they will dock the hospital for poor care and that information is being used by medicare/medicaid for reimbursement. So to make sure the government funds us and sees the hospital as good, we unnecessarily drug up patients and get them hooked. And this is a very recent phenomenon - it's not like new narcotics were developed and suddenly everyone is doped up...we've had all these narcotics since the 70s. It's just now physicians practice out of fear, it's just safer for us and the hospital to be drug dealers.

    It's a sick cycle.
     
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  25. David87

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    Well, tried to go to Bernie, but after 45 minutes in line my anxiety got the best of me and I had to leave. So bummed right now.
     
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