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Say what you will about Ariana and being a diva/licking donuts but she is 100% ride or die for her fans. I like that.

 

So, the one thing he promised that people were making such a big deal about and he's going to change his mind lol

 

Yeah, that fucking sucks. I'm sorry. I wish I knew the answer, or the right path forward. You're a teacher right? Maybe focusing on policies that directly lead to more funding there in your state? I don't really know to be honest, and the shitty part is you are definitely not alone. I know so many people in your shoes, or worse ... I talked to someone the other day that was basically like, "yeah, I have to wait for my parents to die it's the only way I'll get out of debt." And it's so, so, so obviously that we as a country fucked up so badly for basically an entire generation. We were told: do X, get Y, and it was just bullshit. As kids we were told things by adults and we listened because we thought, "they're adults! they know better! they got it figured out" ... and now we're all adults and it's like "oh yeah, no one knows fucking shit about anything" and the advice we got that we took blindly sucked.

Yeah, I really don't think I'll ever have kids now. I dunno, maybe something will change and a future child will see this post some day (sup weirdo, go do your homework or read a book and stop stalking my past posts), but I look at the costs and where I see the country going in the next decade and I just can't figure out how or why I could do something like that. I live a pretty frugal life (anyone looking for advice should check out the Mr Money Mustache blog, I steal a lot of his ideas), but the idea of a kid and specifically that uncertainty terrifies me.

Basically with loans and spending, and then needing a raise, and then prices go up, it ends up being a vicious cycle that ends up being virtually impossible to get out of without a lot of luck and/or privilege.

Yeah, I got out without loans as well, but basically because of only dumb luck and privilege. Privilege because of where I grew up and the circumstances of my young life, but also because I was basically dumb in even deciding where to go to college. I was told my entire life by everyone that when you get out of high-school if you don't go to college, you'll basically never work. That no one would hire you. Hah, I was told that for years. And then when it came time to go to college I had no fucking idea what to do or anything. And my parents were like: you're going, and I felt some obligation cause I'd be the first "Tate" to ever graduate college. So I felt like I had to pick something. Some people know where they wanna go and I was just like, I don't want to be anywhere in my state I wanna go somewhere warm ... and I applied places and Redlands gave me a lot of money to go there. So it was like, eh ok. Basically, if I would have gone to a better school? I would probably have been in trouble. I had no idea what I was doing and it was basically the luck of picking that school (and other factors) and the privilege of my upbringing and parents that my transcript looked good to begin with ... there are infinite variables that change that story and it's why I always get so mad at anyone that thinks it's possible to just "pick up by the bootstraps" when that is so fucking untrue. And the advice I was given at that age? Horrible. So bad. It's truly just by basically dumb fucking luck and random choices along the way that it didn't go really bad, cause I look at what I was told then about "investing in your future" and how much of that was just super-bad advice on when and how it was pitched.

I truly don't know what people do that get saddled with those loans. I saw what Hannah had when she got out of her DMA program and what an advanced degree cost and holy-fucking-shit.

Hah this is a really good analogy. I can't even imagine adding something like medical bills on top.

I forgot if it was Bernie, or if it was on a TV show or something I'm remembering and mixing up, but someone was talking about making it 20% easier for everyone ... and how far just that would go. We're stuck in a world where the right-wing propaganda machine demonizes people that dare ask for help, or is in a situation they can't get out of. This culture of blaming combined with the false idea of meritocracy and that people reach success on their ability alone is so fucked.

I'm guessing you have already done a lot of research on reducing your payments and what options there are for that? It feels like so many people google for that these days that the advice out there is probably a cottage industry and potentially scam filled. I wonder if there's anyone that gives good advice though and could better structure it all.

God the whole "pick a better career" thing will forever piss me off too. Like, what's the answer to the one career you can pick and guarantee yourself no matter what you'll be fine no matter what for life? I can't think of one. And on top of that why shouldn't something like teaching BE ONE OF THOSE types of careers! There's a smugness and pettiness that I think permeates that kind of thinking from people that ignore their own path to wherever they are and disgusting lack of awareness "that by the grace of god go I." Arg. All of this just makes me angry at everything.

I've seen a few:

Children of the Affluent: Challenges to Well-Being

Growing up in the culture of affluence can connote various psychosocial risks. Studies have shown that upper-class children can manifest elevated disturbance in several areas—such as substance use, anxiety, and depression—and that two sets of factors seem to be implicated, that is, excessive pressures to achieve and isolation from parents (both literal and emotional). Whereas stereotypically, affluent youth and poor youth are respectively thought of as being at “low risk” and “high risk,” comparative studies have revealed more similarities than differences in their adjustment patterns and socialization processes. In the years ahead, psychologists must correct the long-standing neglect of a group of youngsters treated, thus far, as not needing their attention. Family wealth does not automatically confer either wisdom in parenting or equanimity of spirit; whereas children rendered atypical by virtue of their parents' wealth are undoubtedly privileged in many respects, there is also, clearly, the potential for some nontrivial threats to their psychological well-being.

Affluence and Influence : A Study of Inequities in the Age of Excellence, NC DOCKS (North Carolina Digital Online Collection of Knowledge and Scholarship)

This study analyzed the impact of school poverty levels on variances in elementary math achievement and preparation-based teacher effects.

Education Gap Grows Between Rich and Poor, Studies Show

In another study, by researchers from the University of Michigan, the imbalance between rich and poor children in college completion — the single most important predictor of success in the work force — has grown by about 50 percent since the late 1980s.

The changes are tectonic, a result of social and economic processes unfolding over many decades. The data from most of these studies end in 2007 and 2008, before the recession’s full impact was felt. Researchers said that based on experiences during past recessions, the recent downturn was likely to have aggravated the trend.

“With income declines more severe in the lower brackets, there’s a good chance the recession may have widened the gap,” Professor Reardon said. In the study he led, researchers analyzed 12 sets of standardized test scores starting in 1960 and ending in 2007. He compared children from families in the 90th percentile of income — the equivalent of around $160,000 in 2008, when the study was conducted — and children from the 10th percentile, $17,500 in 2008. By the end of that period, the achievement gap by income had grown by 40 percent, he said, while the gap between white and black students, regardless of income, had shrunk substantially.

Top Student, Top School?

Radford traces valedictorians’ paths to college and presents damning evidence that high schools do not provide sufficient guidance on crucial factors affecting college selection, such as reputation, financial aid, and even the application process itself. Left in a bewildering environment of seemingly similar options, many students depend on their parents for assistance—and this allows social class to rear its head and have a profound impact on where students attend. Simply put, parents from less affluent backgrounds are far less informed about differences in colleges’ quality, the college application process, and financial aid options, which significantly limits their child’s chances of attending a competitive school, even when their child has already managed to become valedictorian.

I saw this going around the other day ... the owners' remarks got them in trouble immediately, just stupidly insensitive. There's a lot of good new takes on food/fusion/amalgamation of foods on that Google Doc though.

 

In fact, that’s what’s been missing from Trump’s first months in office—a recognizable foil. He has tried to turn the media into a public enemy, but it can’t compare to a bona fide political opponent. In this respect, however valuable Clinton’s message might be in terms of content, she may be the person who is least able to deliver it effectively.

Definitely agree with that one.

 

Did you get in early a few years back when it was up and coming? It was a good value like 6 years ago I feel like. Now the secret's out. Now's the time to cash out and bolt! Haha.

 

Gentrification sucksssss

 

The far right and left are gonna love having their favorite Clinton punching bag back. Somethings never change.

somethingsomethingemailssomethingsomething

 

I don't think I've ever shared this but myself and my friends worked really hard with his family and the orgs trying to get him out. I think everyone should know about it. If I'm not mistaken, a few celebs talked about it. It's the biggest injustice I've seen maybe ever but def personally. Classic case of racism in the prison system.

Troy Davis - Wikipedia

 

You know, I could do without her. I have no jokes left.

 

Feel like that's the one thing we'll never run out of. I'll be cracking jokes until the bitter-fucking-end.

 

To this day, I still make jokes about this whole thing:

 

So uncomfortable to watch

 

The embarrassment outweighs my discomfort. Still weird as hell, though.

 

How do I get the job that before any politician does or says anything in public I get to just read it first and point out the obvious shit? Like I feel like this should be a job for me. I can find you the obvious dick jokes you missed, and I'll find all the dumb fucking stuff that I can't believe isn't obvious too.

 

GET IT GET FLY I GOT SIX JOBS I DON'T GET TIRED - Hillary Clinton 2002

 

You've read my mind. I was just thinking that there should have been someone that said, "hey, uh, Hillary, don't use a black voice in the speech. I don't think it'll play to well in a primary against a black candidate"

 

Damn.

 

Imagine if dumb maga people existed in other places

 

they do, just ask Piers Morgan

 

Idk if he counts...

As a human

 

Americans literally exist to work. At least 8 to 5. We have zero social programs. You just get up and go to work so the government can spend $900 bil on nu-imperialism.